Thread: Show us your Shaper

Hi Matt,

Thanks for your welcome.
It's a struggle to use these machines in such a small shed.
But I look at it as a challenge.
Adding a filing machine makes it even harder.

The little surface grinder is in fact a complete tool and cutter grinder with the added ability of surface grinding.
The extra tools that belong with it are also there....

I am gonna make a lot of pictures soon (hopefully next week, when I'm done rearranging and cleaning up the shed).
Then I will go into detail about every machine that's there.
I will try to make separate items of those, just to keep this thread clean.

Jan

Went out today to pick up my latest restoration project and my travelling head shaper happenes to stored in the same shed.
I have been threatening some pics for a while now so here goes.

Phil

Nice Phil. Flat belt drive...reciprocating machine....drool.....

As always though, some questions....

How big is it? It looks like it doesnt have a flywheel, looks more like the ram is rack and pinion driven, like a planner? It also looks like the table is fixed for machining but can be fixed anywhere along the bed? Manufacturer? Any idea of age?
And most importantly.....why on earth does the anvil have a bright pink container on it????

Cheers,
Ewan

Wow Ewan, isnt that four spoke flywheel in the second picture big enough for you?

Hi Phil,
To add to Ewan questions.
1.where/how is the reversing for the backstroke done?
2.whos been up to what with the radiusing clapper box on the C section?
Thanks for the pictures

Stuart

Originally Posted by Ueee

Nice Phil. Flat belt drive...reciprocating machine....drool.....

As always though, some questions....

How big is it? It looks like it doesnt have a flywheel, looks more like the ram is rack and pinion driven, like a planner? It also looks like the table is fixed for machining but can be fixed anywhere along the bed? Manufacturer? Any idea of age?
And most importantly.....why on earth does the anvil have a bright pink container on it????

Cheers,
Ewan

Hmmmm, all very good questions Ewan. I will endeavour to find out for you
Here is one about the same size but I don't think the drive is the same. It might be time to investigate.

Phil

Thanks for the extra shots Phil. I was a bit baffled but the general setup is clear now. A bit sad that this machine appears to be permanently mounted outdoors.

I too am curious about the fabricated contraption on yours. BTW if you ever see an orphaned one of those radiusing heads looking for a home, I'd love to hear about it. Long shot I know. Until now I'd only seen the line drawing in the TAFE book. Have you ever used one?

Originally Posted by Stustoys

Wow Ewan, isnt that four spoke flywheel in the second picture big enough for you?

Hi Phil,
To add to Ewan questions.
1.where/how is the reversing for the backstroke done?
2.whos been up to what with the radiusing clapper box on the C section?
Thanks for the pictures

Stuart

Hi Stuart,
Not sure on how to get the ram reciprocating. I thought I knew and I knew some parts were missing but now I haven't a clue. Of course I didn't take any pics of the top of the plate the ram slides in which would've helped. I do have a way of getting some though.
With regard to the 'C' section mount the bloke I got it off did his apprenticeship at the Newport railway workshops in the days of steam and sadly is long gone now and I am sure he told me what he was doing there but my memory aint what it used to be. It would have been for some 'whiz bang gizmo' though.

Originally Posted by Bryan

Thanks for the extra shots Phil. I was a bit baffled but the general setup is clear now. A bit sad that this machine appears to be permanently mounted outdoors.

I too am curious about the fabricated contraption on yours. BTW if you ever see an orphaned one of those radiusing heads looking for a home, I'd love to hear about it. Long shot I know. Until now I'd only seen the line drawing in the TAFE book. Have you ever used one?

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Hi Bryan,
At this rate, that radiusing head may become an orphan
The extra pics are from the one at the State Coal Mine in Wonthaggi Victoria. They seem to have a lot of gear outside but a lot of gear inside too. It's always going to be hard when a show is all voluntary.
Never used a radiusing head but can't wait. It's certainly an easier way to shape a round shaft

Phil

Thanks Phil,
Shame to see that poor girl outside.....it does show a lot more of the workings than a selection of parts though.

Cheers,
Ewan

In my last post I promised to show some more pictures of my shaper.

My shed is quite small, only 4,5 by 2,25 m, but I managed to cram a lot of machines in it.
In the cold season I don't do much there, because it can only be heated with a simple kerosine heater, there is no central heating...

Now that spring has finally arrived here, I had a chance to get busy again.

After a few days of cleaning and rearringing, this is what it looks like now:
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The shaper is in the rear left corner, and it got through the cold season without trouble.
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Even though it is a small shed, I managed to arrange everything so, that there is enough room for me to work with my machines.
As you can see, there is plenty of space around the shaper to use it.

With most shapers you can turn the flywheel by hand to check that everything is running free, before turning the motor on.

This shaper does not have this feature (or at least I haven't discovered it yet...) so you have to open the side-door to move the flywheel by hand.
This takes a little reaching, but it can be done.

The shaper is powered by a three phase motor.
Because there is only single phase in my shed, I have installed a VFD.
This works flawlessly.

In fact, almost all of my machines have three phase motors, but on the Dutch version of Ebay, Marktplaats, I have found enough reasonably priced VFD's to power them with.

When I bought the shaper, it didn't have the original Hembrug vise that I hoped for.

Instead there was another one mounted.

When I found out, that it was a Brockhaus vice, I was pleasantly surprised.
This is one of the best German vises available and it is steady as a rock.

All in all I'm quite happy with this machine and I hope to be able to make a lot of chips with it.


Jan

Nice photo's. That's a small workspace, probably more efficient with everything having a home.

The photo's of your shaper showed nipples on the ram, are they grease or oil nipples. And what type of grease/oil gun do you use?

Cheers Ben

Hi Ben,

Thanks for your kind words.
It is amazing that I found the room to make some reasonable pictures.

The small space forces me to work as efficient as possible.
It is absolutely necessary to keep as much order as I can, and to clean up afterwards.
I'm glad I got myself a small industrial vacuum cleaner [got it free, because it was broken. A new switch was all it needed....] so I can clear away the chips each evening.

I try to put every tool back in its place after I'm done.

You are right about the nipples on the ram.
They are oil nipples, and the lubrication is done with the same oiler I use for the Myford lathe.
It's about the same model as Myford sells, but this one is of East-European origin.
I found it on Marktplaats (The Dutch variation of Ebay) for only € 15.=

I read a lot of complaints of Myford users about leaking oilers, but this particular one does the job without spilling.

The internal oiling of the shaper goes via an oil-bath.
The gears pick the oil up and sling it around to where-ever it is needed.
Through a small glass window I can monitor the oil level inside.
It's a very efficient system, no spillage on the inside and on the outside only some drops at the front of the ram when I have used the oilgun too enthousiast.....

Cheers, Jan

Originally Posted by bwal74

Nice photo's. That's a small workspace, probably more efficient with everything having a home.

The photo's of your shaper showed nipples on the ram, are they grease or oil nipples. And what type of grease/oil gun do you use?

Cheers Ben

Myford supplied a Wanner oiler with their lathes Ben, stiffly priced if you were looking for a new one. I've got a couple that weren't stiffly priced, here's a bit about one one - https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/wa...3/#post1563644


Nice compact workshop Jan . I have a couple of questions. What is the little toolroom lathe that we can only catch a glimpse of ? Initially I thought it was a little Schaublin SV70 but the ball cranks and bed looked different. Then I was thinking maybe something German, maybe a Boley?

And a non machine question. Are those bricks in your walls the standard common size in Holland? A traditional standard clay brick over here is 76mm high x 220mm long.

An aside, A couple of years ago my wife and I were in Amsterdam and one day we ventured into the old residential area adjoining the Vondelpark. I have never seen such exquisite brickwork anywhere as I saw there. No one could tell a Dutchman how to lay a brick.

Bob.

Originally Posted by Anorak Bob

Nice compact workshop Jan . I have a couple of questions. What is the little toolroom lathe that we can only catch a glimpse of ? Initially I thought it was a little Schaublin SV70 but the ball cranks and bed looked different. Then I was thinking maybe something German, maybe a Boley?

And a non machine question. Are those bricks in your walls the standard common size in Holland? A traditional standard clay brick over here is 76mm high x 220mm long.

An aside, A couple of years ago my wife and I were in Amsterdam and one day we ventured into the old residential area adjoining the Vondelpark. I have never seen such exquisite brickwork anywhere as I saw there. No one could tell a Dutchman how to lay a brick.

Bob.

Thanks Bob,

I was sure somebody would ask about the little toolroom lathe.....
It is the same style as the Schaublin, but it isn't Swiss, and not German either!
It is an Ames EH3 lathe, that I picked up a month ago for € 155.=

Tony describes it here: Ames Type EH3 Lathe

I plan to make an separate thread soon to describe my shop and my machines, then I'll tell more about this lathe. I want to keep the current thread as clean as possible.

I will then go into your question about the bricks too.....

Cheers, Jan

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It looks like this old girl will go into the shed..when I can work out how to get it home The shaper was buried under a decent coat of dirt, ready for the scrappie I think. No vice and missing a couple of handles. Something to play about with for a while. It looks a bit like Bryans I think, but until it is probably dismantled and cleaned who knows what it will reveal. Downside is I don't have 3 phase power, although my son said not to worry... he has.