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30th May 2013, 11:05 PM #496Senior Member
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Hi Leroy,
Can't give you a guide to year of manufacture, but having plain bearings and the makers name moulded as part of the ram casting indicates it is not the more recent series. Nor its it the earliest type, which had no provision for a front support. AFAIK the clutch was an option, and not indicative of the age of a particular machine.
Congratulations - it looks quite complete and really good for its age!
Cheers,
Bill
(Edit) Just remembered a discussion about the age of a Douglas: starts at post 20 - https://www.woodworkforums.com/f65/do...07/index2.html
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5th June 2013, 05:44 PM #497
Douglas shaper
Well last week I received my shaper and thought it looked good for its age now after some time with paint and kerosene its
looking even better, if anyone has some spare handles I'd like to hear from you, also if anyone knows where that washer belongs
I'd love to know,
Leroy.
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5th June 2013, 06:50 PM #498SENIOR MEMBER
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HI,
Like your new paint scheme. Looks great.
Ben
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5th June 2013, 07:47 PM #499Dave J Guest
I would say that washer is off something like the pulley shaft or some other shaft back there.
Dave
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7th June 2013, 11:49 PM #500Intermediate Member
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Show us your Shaper
Well I waited, but not too long, and thanks to a connection made through a member here, thanks Peter(Bollie7), I am now the proud owner of a Douglas shaper.
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Picked it up in Newcastle and dragged it home much to wife's annoyance. I have looked at numbers but still not sure of the year? 65? There is no front table support, no clutch, no handles, no vice, motor belt is quite loose, motor wires chopped off less then 10 mm long. But wear wise it looks good. I do have another belt guard. Most of this i can probably sort given time.
But it has a broken tooth on the table feed gear and that probably exceeds my current confidence level as far as repair goes. The shaft it sits on is slightly bent too but I think is ok or can straighten.
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So any one have a spare gear or vice or front support, or handles?
Or advice on other suitable vices, repair etc
Thanks
james
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9th June 2013, 10:52 AM #501Distracted Member
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Skip to 5:30 to see an old worm-drive shaper running.
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9th June 2013, 11:09 AM #502GOLD MEMBER
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And with thanks to google and PM here is how it works.
Patent US436139 - SHAPING AND SLOTTING MACHINE - Google Patents
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9th June 2013, 03:19 PM #503SENIOR MEMBER
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9th June 2013, 03:48 PM #504
Hi James,
I'm not sure about a vice, but I'm sure the front support could be made fairly easily, same with the handles.
The ratchet gear needs to be made with a dividing head or RT on the mill or shaper. What dimensions/teeth no. etc is it? I probably owe a favor or 2 to Michael G and Matty G so i'll offer to make one for you if you haven't sorted anything else out.
Cheers,
Ew1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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14th June 2013, 12:05 AM #505
Hi. My Douglas had two teeth sheared off the table advance ratchet.
You will very quickly work out how this happens, by the way (Hint: don't tighten the T-slot nut too tight on the rechet arm excenter).
Anyway, I ran a couple of careful beads across the ratchet wheel with my arc welder and carefully filed them back to shape. Took maybe half an hour and is pretty undetectable. It works just fine.
Good luck.Cheers,
Joe
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10th September 2013, 03:06 PM #506Senior Member
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I showed this Alba 1A shaper on here a while ago, and now I can use a few words of wisdom about freeing the swivel for the vertical slide.
The swivel is stuck, I can get no movement at all out of the spindle. I've removed the 2 bolts from the RH side near the square drive, I've lubricated, I've tapped, now its time to get serious. After removing the clapper and vertical slide hoping to attack the problem from the front, it looks like I need to remove the ram to get in behind the swivel.
I'm sure that removing the ram and freeing the swivel is all pretty basic stuff, any words of wisdom before I start?
Thanks in advance
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10th September 2013, 03:56 PM #507GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Bob,
I'm unclear on what the issue is.
Can you loosen the Square drive and the swivel wont move? or cant you loosen the square drive
Sorry if I'm being thick.
Stuart
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10th September 2013, 04:17 PM #508.
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I might be thick too but on my little Douglas the clapper box swivel is fixed with a cam type "bolt" . You may be tightening rather than loosening the thing. A trap I fell into when I first tried to dismantle mine.
Bob.
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10th September 2013, 06:45 PM #509SENIOR MEMBER
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Bob,
IIRC the square shaft has a cam to tighten the swivel. I think that it works in reverse. IIRC the 2 studs on top retain the cam and shaft. Remove them and the shaft pulls out and then allows the the swivel head to pull out. To remove the ram remove the stroke adjusting nut on top of it. You will need to open the side door and support the "fork" so it doesn't crash down. (keep the fork well lubed at the top joint as there is a weakness there that will seize and cause a MAJOR crash. As in bent shafts, teeth off gears and possibly damaged cabinets) My old girl had had a major crash and had been repaired. I also had to have a new gear made due to missing teeth. Take off the adjustable dovetail and the ram will slide off. It is weighty.
I am working from memory from about 4 years ago and it could be a bit dodgy. The craft syndrome.
Kem
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10th September 2013, 06:48 PM #510
To add to the two comments from BT and Stu: the square peg on the side is likely to be an excenter or a cam inside, turning it either way of a "neutral" position or angle will lock the head pivot.
Are you able to find a "loose" position for the square pin by turning it clockwise or anticlockwise a little? If you can, leave it there and see if you can tap the vertical slide base either way a little - or indeed 'forward', in a direction away from the ram (by a small amount to allow lubricant to penetrate into the swivel).
Let us know what you find.Cheers,
Joe
9"thicknesser/planer, 12" bench saw, 2Hp Dusty, 5/8" Drill press, 10" Makita drop saw, 2Hp Makita outer, the usual power tools and carpentry hand tools...
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