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18th June 2013, 07:49 PM #1
ROUGHTING GOUGES *** this may be war Talk***
So been doing a lot of spindle work over the last to weeks
It got me thinking about roughing gouges and one big question what makes a good roughing gouge and what do you look for in a roughing gouge??
I have 2 one is a small Sorby and the other is a large open fluted roughing gouge don't have a makers mark but told it came from the same guy that use to make the UNI Jig I love it its my first pick.DANGER!!!!I'm Dyslexic Spelling may offend!!!!!
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18th June 2013, 08:05 PM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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Hi Dave, I have found as I've become more competent I find I tend to grab the skew more often than not to go from square to round.
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Joel
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18th June 2013, 08:16 PM #3
NZ, you've seen my Roughing Gouge, P&N. Does the job, no matter the type of timber.
Pat
Work is a necessary evil to be avoided. Mark Twain
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18th June 2013, 09:03 PM #4
I had a hamlet 1 3/4 inch U shape roughing gouge but I it sat on my shelf for over 12 months
never used it so I gave it to a good home were it gets used alot.DANGER!!!!I'm Dyslexic Spelling may offend!!!!!
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18th June 2013, 09:05 PM #5
The Roughing Gouge.
Hi Dave,
Well I'll stir the pot.
Just can't take to those Bent pieces of steel, is it steel ?.
I have 3 R/Gouges but my best one is the 25mm. P&N,& it is Machined out of a big hunk of HSS. Yes, Got a bit of Guts in it.
My Other Big one is also P&N, & there are not to many of these around. It is Bent as well, BUT, it is 40 x 10mm. one big Mother, & great to use.
My Little one is an older Greaves Rectangular, most likely a Spindle Gouge, but quite thick, as the older tools were.
I use it for small spindle work & is a fine tool, but has to be sharpened a bit more as it is Carbon Steel.Regards,
issatree.
Have Lathe, Wood Travel.
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18th June 2013, 10:46 PM #6
Joel, the use of a skew as a roughing gouge can be quite dangerous. It will produce fairly large splinters with a very sharp point that will penetrate skin deeply and quickly. In competent hands, a skew can produce a wide variety of shapes. I sometimes use a skew for roughing timber up to about 15mm square, but that's it.
JimSometimes in the daily challenges that life gives us, we miss what is really important...
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18th June 2013, 10:58 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
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ive got 3 a 25mm p&n for most roughing out and some detail work, a Henry Taylor hs34 small to medium work! and the big old p&n for big jobs post etc! use the p&n 's mostly! the odd time where I have used just the skew turning 100's of tapered plugs for the Navy.
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19th June 2013, 07:19 AM #8SENIOR MEMBER
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has the ultimate roughing gouge show us a pic please .
Mic
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19th June 2013, 07:34 AM #9
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19th June 2013, 08:26 AM #10
I couldn't enjoy turning without my spindle roughing gouges 25mm & 32mm Hamlets & 25mm P&N. The P&N is the much stronger spindle roughing for roughing down with its machined flute from solid bar and robust tang design, however I use my Hamlets as finishing tools as well for spindle work with slow curves on swells etc. The U's wings act like a skew or more correctly a bedan in profile, so if well sharpened & honed produce a finish almost as good as a skew in skilled hands. (like Jim's - powder post).
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19th June 2013, 10:27 AM #11GOLD MEMBER
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So, there's been a lot of chatter about brands but no one has said why. A bit like saying my car is best because it's a Holden. So, what's good about your roughing gouge? Is it the flute shape, the way it holds it's edge? Etcetera, etcetera.
To me, a roughing gouge is a roughing gouge, no matter what shape. I've got two, one of which is a Sorby and the other from McJing's. The McJing I ground to my own angle and made my own handle (we're all good at spindle turning, aren't we?)
I have absolutely no preference for brand however a roughing gouge is as only as good as it's edge. That is, it has to be sharp. And for that the Tormek is king. I like my edges surgically sharp-Scott
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19th June 2013, 05:00 PM #12Jim
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19th June 2013, 09:32 PM #13
Hamlet because that was what the local wood turning retailer sold at the time. The HSS holds an edge well enough for me & as good as the skew if I choose to spend the time on the Tormek. The P&N was part of a prize package from AWTEX and has proved to be very very usefull along with another prize a P&N scraper.
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19th June 2013, 09:48 PM #14
Skew up to about 75 mm then P&N super gouge > 75 mm, because it is big and heavy.
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The 75mm is wood size.
Skew up to 75mm square then super gouge above.
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20th June 2013, 01:16 AM #15Deceased
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