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1st July 2013, 09:15 AM #1New Member
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New Plane collector I think
I bought 2 wooden planes today at a car boot sale and I was wondering if any one could possible shed a little light on them please? I should also state here that I am a total novice and know nothing about planes what so ever, a relative of mine asked me to keep an eye out for a NORRIS plane (which I have been), but the two that I bought today are very tactile indeed, and could very easily be something that I may very well start collecting. Anyway, about the planes: Here are the planes y.jpgzzzz.jpgzzzzz.jpgzzzzzz.jpgyy.jpgyyy.jpgyyyy.jpgyyyyy.jpgyyyyyy.jpgyyyyyyy.jpgz.jpgzz.jpgzzz.jpg
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1st July 2013, 10:03 AM #2
I don't know anything about woodies, but those are beautiful, and they're beech, and they're missing a few parts.
Toby
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1st July 2013, 12:08 PM #3
gvart,
The two planes you have found are very common type planes, and often seen in almost every location where old tools may be found.
Since they are not rare, there were many, many makers back when they were produced. They were sent to the colonies by the ship load, and in the case of the US, also made in huge quantities.
There are plenty of books by enthusiastic collectors listing the types of planes, and the makers' histories.
As a plane collector, I have lots of the reference books, and old catalogues.....they are often far more expensive than the typical beech smoothing and jack plane you have there....and some collectors prefer to put their cash into tools rather than the books. I just love books, so I have plenty. We moved house recently, and I'm just digging out the boxes of books and putting them up on the shelves again.
The plane marked "Master" was made by A.B Salmen's Successors Ltd. In London. It was made between 1937 - 1967.
The Goats Head emblem is from Cox and Luckman, Birmingham. The mark may have been used up until about 1931.
This information was from a book by W L Goodman, British Planemakers from 1700, and if you are in GB, it would be first on my list to read before I entered the plane collecting game.
Some of the plane made since 1700 are rare and very collectable, some are VERY common, and of little cost, but some folk still find them very interesting, and collect them.
You can decide were in the collectable plane world you want to be. I've know collectors of all types, those who collect the common, and those who collect the rare....that is their choice of poison
Perhaps now you will looking out for yourself if you find as Norris, a Spiers, or a Mathieson infill plane.
Good luck,
Peter
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1st July 2013, 03:27 PM #4
Slippery slope ... hah! ... it's a wormhole
These were the first type of planes that I got off ebay and I think they are great (and cheap) way to start off. They are easy to flatten the sole if it needs it ... you can challenge yourself to inlay into the sole to close a wide mouth (although I took the cowards way out) ... you can add a whole new section of sole or a metal plate if you wanted. That's if you want them to become users.
The heavy taper irons that are fairly abundant and cheap here must be all over the place in the UK I'm guessing. They are totally under-appreciated for quality ... plus you can learn to grind them, sharpen them ... fit the chip-breaker to the iron ... and learn to adjust the depth of the iron by the "whack-whack tapitty-tapitty" method
Of course ... after that ... there's all those Stanley and Record planes out there calling you ... let alone the terrible temptations you will find deliciously displayed on Peter's website.
The old woodies will work with some effort ... see the first video clip ... https://www.woodworkforums.com/f213/o...ml#post1643043
Search videos on google for "wooden planes" ... there's a mine of info out there.
Cheers,
Paul
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1st July 2013, 03:37 PM #5
There's a good video from Colonial Williamsburg that frustratingly I can't find
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1st July 2013, 06:02 PM #6New Member
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Thank you all
I paid £4 for both and the blade fits both. I am not a woodworker, restoration of old furniture is my thing. Thank you all for your kind comments and what to look out for. A relative of mine mentioned to me to keep an eye out for a Norris, but alas there weren't any there. I just love the look and feel of them and the point that they are so easily to get hold of. I don't think I would ever use them though, but might very well display them in our home. I really am a complete novice, so I am very, very grateful for all of your advice and help Thanks Steve
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