Thread: Show us your Shaper

Thanks for all the advice guys. So yes, the process is rotate the slide 180° in order to remove the eccentric pin, work the swivel out of the ram, its a snug fit. To lock the swivel when you have it all reassembled turn the square drive ANTI clockwise.

Here are some pictures of my shapers and slotter. Is it ok to show slotters here or will it tip shaper fans over?

This is a little Torpex I have had for 15 or more years. We never used shapers much when I did my apprenticeship and the new toolroom didn't even have one!! I bought my own. It is good as I can grind up my own tooling for whatever comes along. I have done many internal keyways on here as well as many other jobs.

I found this larger shaper for sale and it has been reconditioned. I have the luxury of 3 phase so I bought this one, or saved it from a boat ride to China. I need to relocate it to get better use out of it. I have run out of space for all my machines. My wife suggested selling some as I have 2 of them. But which one? It's like selling your child.

I got tired of setting up to do internal keyways and other things and this Slotter was at an auction not far from me. It cost more than the 2 shapers combined, but after 10+ years searching for a slotter I finally got one. Please excuse the state of my farm workshop, it is a disgrace.

I have a couple more pics to show. First are of the Torpex and second the Austolite. I had a hard time getting these pics up but persistence pays off!!

A shaper question concerning capacity:
Who in the Melbourne region has a shaper with at least 24" (610mm) stroke capcity?
How accurate is that machine? Would it be suitable to resurface a 24" x 10" milling machine table?
I'm actually asking on behalf of azzrock (Aaron) who is looking for options for resurfacing his Deckel FP1 table. It has the original parallel shallow grooves common to planed tables on these machines in the past. He would like to recreate those lines but about half a millimeter or so lower - to remove most of the marring of the table.
Failing that I suggested grinding, but I too like the idea of sticking with what Friedrich Deckel chose.

Originally Posted by jhovel

A shaper question concerning capacity:
Who in the Melbourne region has a shaper with at least 24" (610mm) stroke capcity?
How accurate is that machine? Would it be suitable to resurface a 24" x 10" milling machine table?
I'm actually asking on behalf of azzrock (Aaron) who is looking for options for resurfacing his Deckel FP1 table. It has the original parallel shallow grooves common to planed tables on these machines in the past. He would like to recreate those lines but about half a millimeter or so lower - to remove most of the marring of the table.
Failing that I suggested grinding, but I too like the idea of sticking with what Friedrich Deckel chose.

Nice to see that we have some purists ! If you haven't read this PM thread , Ross "Alfa GTA" tells how it is done. - Reconditioning deckel tables

BT

Failing someone having a 24" shaper. As the grooves "don't matter" as such. You could grind the table and then groove it on an 18" shaper(you might be able to get a 24" stroke on an 18" shaper if you didnt mind a little manual workout). As far as machining the table, my shaper might make things worse, I've never checked it over that length. Though. once its on the grinder you could grind them in. Whos got a 24" grinder?

Stuart

Originally Posted by jhovel

A shaper question concerning capacity:
Who in the Melbourne region has a shaper with at least 24" (610mm) stroke capcity?
How accurate is that machine? Would it be suitable to resurface a 24" x 10" milling machine table?
I'm actually asking on behalf of azzrock (Aaron) who is looking for options for resurfacing his Deckel FP1 table. It has the original parallel shallow grooves common to planed tables on these machines in the past. He would like to recreate those lines but about half a millimeter or so lower - to remove most of the marring of the table.
Failing that I suggested grinding, but I too like the idea of sticking with what Friedrich Deckel chose.

hi joe thanks mate. also very well described. I havent read the hole tread thread bob gave a link to but
it seems to be an argument about grinder vs planner. . it seems that using a planner to refinish the table
is not an option here in melbourne. Ive received lots of advise about the table from the others here.
and sooner or later im going to have to make up my mind.
grinding in the grooves nice one stu.
This has reminded me about a friend of mine from here (thorens)
) had a lead on a large sharper .
ill post some more in my first mill thread.

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Originally Posted by azzrock

hi joe thanks mate. also very well described. I havent read the hole tread thread bob gave a link to but
it seems to be an argument about grinder vs planner. . it seems that using a planner to refinish the table
is not an option here in melbourne. Ive received lots of advise about the table from the others here.
and sooner or later im going to have to make up my mind.
grinding in the grooves nice one stu.
This has reminded me about a friend of mine from here (thorens)
) had a lead on a large sharper .
ill post some more in my first mill thread.

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I know someone with a 36" stroke shaper but they're not in Melbourne. NW Victoria and the machine is mothballed ATM.

I also know someone with a 48" stroke planer but - they're not in Melbourne....

PDW

Hi Aaron,

If you decide to go for ground finish, I can surface grind up to 600x300, so you'd just make it. (You'd have to come up to Shepp for a visit )

My shaper only goes to 18", I think Ewan's Queen City goes to 24"?

Ray

Just be aware once you touch it, it will bow....

Marko this year ground a small table for a deckel, and it was grind, flip, grind, flip, grind, flip, grind, flip..etc etc to get it flat...

Originally Posted by RayG

Hi Aaron,

If you decide to go for ground finish, I can surface grind up to 600x300, so you'd just make it. (You'd have to come up to Shepp for a visit )

My shaper only goes to 18", I think Ewan's Queen City goes to 24"?

Ray

The only way to get it flat off the Queen is by some miracle it bows straight once it is cut. My ram is a banana, it more or less moves in an arc. I could put the lines in though after a grind.

Ew

Originally Posted by .RC.

Just be aware once you touch it, it will bow....
.

If I am right about the style of azzrock's table, it is in the form of a webbed angle plate, with no 'other side' to grind if it distorts.
Maybe the construction would stiffen it and reduce distortion. How is an an angle plate trued?

Bill

That's exactly what the Deckel table looks like: a webbed large angle plate. So there is no option to 'flip it'....

hi every one. ill post some pics back on my first mill thread.
joe rc,ray bob stu, uee.pdw and wcd. Is that every one
thanks more to think about.