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3rd June 2014, 08:41 PM #3346Pink 10EE owner
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I know what you mean Pete, but I am becoming a bit more realistic as I get older.... The machines that were for sale are from a different era... Back after the first scraping class, the next day Phil took Joe, Greg and myself to a factory in Melbourne.... What we saw there was amazing... Nearly everything was modern CNC.. I may have seen one or two manual machines and thirty or so CNC machines.. They had a few old CNC machines that was exclusively for the apprentices to try to destroy..
I was reading some article recently and contrary to what we think, our manufacturing output is still very high, it is just that instead of needing 100 workers to do something with modern CNC we only need 10.. Plus the more complicated and highly engineered we make things, things just can not be repaired... You throw away and get another from the manufacturer...
I wonder, is there a plant like the Qantas one in <insert low wage country here> that will do the same work that this Qantas plant does... Repair and reclamation of parts? Or is the new way in plane repair, just part replacement with new parts... Like my car mechanic does... Look at the number of engine reconditioning shops full of machine tools, compared to thirty years ago....
I think it is just progress..
What I think our leaders should be doing is helping business in Australia become world leaders in manufacturing high tech products through CNC machine tools...Light red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.
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3rd June 2014, 09:15 PM #3347Senior Member
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Depressing sights.
Thank you for sharing the pictures of this old factory and all the gear.
It is a depressing sight to see the past toil and visions ending up this way.
I did see my old man's lifetime collection of gear walk out the door in 4 [four] hours.still managed to pull 24 tonnes of gear out prior that belonged me.
Turned my innards to know how much he scrimped and saved and worked hard to get all what he wanted together.''Green eyed''family members could only see the dollar signs.as they say you can pick your friends ''relos'' are a given. Thanks once again RC. John.
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3rd June 2014, 09:37 PM #3348Pink 10EE owner
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Probably other things I forgot to mention was a Hercus camel back drill... Well used..
Plus a double headed UK made drill...
An old style flat belt driven churchill cylindrical grinder...
An old Cinci vertical mill... Probably a #3 size...Light red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.
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3rd June 2014, 10:41 PM #3349SENIOR MEMBER
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I'm not sure which auction you were referring to Richard, but there wasn't anything wrong with the technology in Qantas Engineering I assure you. I guess there hasn't been any investment in the area for a long time, but it's a very conservative field so sometimes the techniques used aren't cutting edge with regard some people's expectations, but most of the bigger machines to go today were certainly CNC.
Despite claims by some with a vested interest to claim otherwise, modern aircraft and engines most certainly still need maintenance. There's unfortunately not much else I can say on the topic, as there's still (for the moment) a hand who feeds me. I will say that I'd trust a Qantas engineer with my life; and do. Daily. I have an enormous respect for the local guys.
I read an article that manufacturing in the US as a percentage of GDP is actually on the increase, but is, as you say, as a result of increased automation and reliance on technology.
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4th June 2014, 02:51 PM #3350
Congratulations on the new addition to the family... the price was pretty reasonable as well.. I was a bit interested in some of the smaller lots, but didn't have internet access at the crucial times..
So, now that you have the Mitsui Seiki, the market for SIP has has open up?
Ray
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4th June 2014, 03:51 PM #3351
Hi RC,
Thanks for the pictures.. a lot of nostalgia there.. with a big planer like that, can you just use the planer itself to flatten the table..? I guess it depends on how badly worn the ways are?
Reminds me of the factory over in Bendigo that got left for 20 years.. I imagine that their work would have been related to the cane industry.. Did they do any work for Austoft?
Ray
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4th June 2014, 05:18 PM #3352
Waldown in Smithfield
Anyone here going for this one? Ending in 1/2hr and only going for $79 so far....
http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0027-...elt-drive-by-1Cheers,
Joe
9"thicknesser/planer, 12" bench saw, 2Hp Dusty, 5/8" Drill press, 10" Makita drop saw, 2Hp Makita outer, the usual power tools and carpentry hand tools...
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5th June 2014, 11:29 PM #3353Member
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swaging dies
If anyone in Brisbane is interested in Blacksmiths swaging dies do let me know, I'll supply you with a number for a fellow who has at least a dozen or so for sale. Couldn't tell you exact sizes. The one I saw reduces 1" to 3/4". These are in the form of a split die with a handle not a swage block.
Garry
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7th June 2014, 12:36 PM #3354
Le Blond
Looks like a REGAL ?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Metal-Lat...item3ce27ed3b9
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7th June 2014, 03:00 PM #3355SENIOR MEMBER
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Yep it sure does, (and is) and with a pretty good range of accessories too. I hope he has the 127 tooth change-gear for any metric threading a new owner would likely want to do. The carbide tooling would be O.K. IMO when working with larger diameters, if he has the H.P. to run it otherwise I would say HSS tooling would be better for these old Regals. Top spindle speed was either 500 or 750 rpm, and if the original motor and pulleys were still in use, then this would be reduced by 5/6, because the speeds were for a 60 Hz supply. With a 6 1/2" centre height, and 3 feet between centres, it offers a fair bit of lathe for the money, being very useful without being too big for home. It would be a nice acquisition for someone starting out IMO, thanks for pointing it out Mike.
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8th June 2014, 05:30 PM #3356Pink 10EE owner
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CNC mill... I wonder what they are like... I believe they are servo drive not steppers.. Chinese make though...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Syil-X7-C...-/301203518912Light red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.
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9th June 2014, 12:59 AM #3357
Someone fancy a high speed drill that is not a Waldown?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Herbert-B...3D3312256555121915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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9th June 2014, 02:45 AM #3358
That is fantastic! Never seen anything like it! Wish I could afford it...... Someone make and offer and get it! That looks the ant's pants!
Cheers,
Joe
9"thicknesser/planer, 12" bench saw, 2Hp Dusty, 5/8" Drill press, 10" Makita drop saw, 2Hp Makita outer, the usual power tools and carpentry hand tools...
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9th June 2014, 07:59 AM #3359Distracted Member
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I second the impotent lust.
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9th June 2014, 08:22 AM #3360Philomath in training
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Is anyone nearby who could do a pick up though?
In the meantime saw this -
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JONES-SHIP...item27e565eea5
I like the idea - the number of times I drill a hole then need to swap bits for a countersink or clearance drill or...
Michael
(pity it's pick up only in the UK. BaronJ? found a drill press for you...)
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