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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyjack View Post
    OH & S handrail - previously there was a lower hand rail which has since being removed, so a gap in the mid tank hand rail would have been alright. As the shunters' boards have been removed the mid handrail is surplus, the top handrail is however still required to allow the crew to access things like tank filler, note the narrow ledge around the bottom of the side tanks. (I should mention here that I have slipped off the side of an engine after topping up the water tanks. I fell about 2 meters into the service pit but was able to walk out unaided. My driver took me off duty and found a relief for the next trip.)

    Paint work - The engine is probably in a color scheme that it had at some time in its service - in this case I would suggest when it entered service, which would also tie in with the removal of the shunters' boards. You will probably find that from the 1920's with a few exceptions (eg the Spirit S class and N 430 on the Jubilee train) the color would be all over black, it was not until the 50's that a splash of color in red headstocks and/or smoke deflectors was introduced.

    Rear cab wall - after looking at the first image (on flickr) I would suggest that the existing opening had a solid panel, unfortunately I have no way of proving this at this stage.
    Kevin,

    Glad you were able to walk away after your fall.

    Thanks for the information. I will be looking at the potential of adding the running boards on my loco. Will depend on accessibility to adding the different components and attachment points. Am a bit wary that it may hide too much of my wheel and brake assemblies ???

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    I would leave the shunters' boards off. They were installed so shunters could safely ride on the side of the engine without getting cleaned up by connecting and coupling rods. Why hide the details you have taken the time to include?

    (Running Board would probably refer to the narrow ledge around the outside of the tank, or wider plating beside the boiler on tender engines. eg the K class has a running board which can be accessed from the door on the fireman's side of the cab.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyjack View Post
    I would leave the shunters' boards off. They were installed so shunters could safely ride on the side of the engine without getting cleaned up by connecting and coupling rods. Why hide the details you have taken the time to include?

    (Running Board would probably refer to the narrow ledge around the outside of the tank, or wider plating beside the boiler on tender engines. eg the K class has a running board which can be accessed from the door on the fireman's side of the cab.)
    Thanks for your comments Kevin. I will leave them off.

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    Hi All,

    Today I fitted the horizontal cabin handrails and also the handles at the front of the cabin just beside each of the windows. The photos show the 268 number and the reason that I decided to make the side handrails in 2 pieces instead of one so that I wouldn't impact on the numbers. The front view also shows the D4 loco type lettering in position.

    I have now started on the rear wall of the cabin which will then enable me to commence work on the coal bunker.

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    Looking Good. I think you made the right choice to leave a gap for the side number plate.

    I always thought the sub class was written as superscript, but the D4 has both! Subscript on the front, Superscript on the bunker. If you had not made the class plate so clear I would not have picked that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyjack View Post
    Looking Good. I think you made the right choice to leave a gap for the side number plate.

    I always thought the sub class was written as superscript, but the D4 has both! Subscript on the front, Superscript on the bunker. If you had not made the class plate so clear I would not have picked that up.
    Hi Kevin,

    I have mucked up for the bunker. Both my D4 plates are the same. I didn't notice the difference until you pointed it out. My other plate is the same as the front. The rear will be the same as the front.

    Have attached a photo of the original prototype for others to see.

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    Hi All,

    Been doing a bit of work on the rear of the cabin. Need to get this work done before I can start on the coal bunker. There is a sliding door in the middle. (This has been welded up in the original locomotive) I reckon the fireman would know what that is for.
    There will be a pivoted "steel" lid on the top of this addition.
    The bars on the windows have been made out of 3mm wire. There are lots of rivets in this section of the locomotive - I have use spiral nail heads.

    I used the internal cabin light for light for the photo.

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    That is one top photo Keith, and the detail looks fantastic, sir....Cheers, crowie
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    Kool Bananas Charlie!.

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    Once more you have me riveted by your attention to detail.

    As you are aware, the rear cab wall has had some patches welded in. I am not sure it these were openings to store oil feeders, or part of the tank (under the bunker) that has rusted out. With the lids at the top, again I am not sure if they were to access the bunker to aid trimming or for storage.
    Compared to what I am used to, the coal chute is up high so I am sure a lot of fuel would have spilled onto the floor to be cleaned up and shoveled onto the fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyjack View Post
    Once more you have me riveted by your attention to detail.

    As you are aware, the rear cab wall has had some patches welded in. I am not sure it these were opening to store oil feeders, or part of the tank (under the bunker) that has rusted out. With the lids at the top, again I am not sure if they were to access the bunker to aid trimming or for storage.
    Compared to what I am used to, the coal chute is up high so I am sure a lot of fuel would have spilled onto the floor to be cleaned up and shoveled onto the fire.
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    Thanks for your knowledge and insight Kevin - most appreciated.

    I like your pun

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    This has been greatly informative and entertaining Keith! I envy your patience!!

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    Hi All,

    I'm pretty happy how the rear of the cabin is coming up. I cheated with the hinges - I used 12mm jewellery box hinges. The upright section of the hinge still hasn't been secured to the wall. The good thing is that the hinges on the real loco have been welded into position. Using 5 minute araldite - it looks like a weld after the primer has been applied (albeit - maybe a rough weld).
    The handle bearing is made of pine. The shaft turned out of aluminium. The handle itself is 4mm mild steel rod. There are narrow side walls still to be added.
    It really is an eye opener on how little space the crew had to carry out very manual work.

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    Two is company, three is a crowd. No room to take rail fans or loved ones (not that they would be allowed any way). When you have a look at a couple of images of the class at work it appears as if there is some sort of door to stop the crew from accidentally falling out (or to stop the shunter or guard from getting cozy in the cab).

    Keith, I always enjoy watching the engine come together as I am sure many others do. With some careful placement inside or outside your workshop, you would think the engine is at a quiet country town, except in your last image there is a giant chair in the background.

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