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    Quote Originally Posted by DSEL74 View Post
    He seems to e friends with GStongs who also make hammers.

    Just because other people make and sell a product doesn't mean nobody else can develop their own. I think his comment is a threat and out of line.
    I've bought stuff from Glenn Stollmeyer, really good guy. Thanks for your support - that's why I like posting here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    I agree, but something does not add up here. It does not look as though he is active on Ebay (not that that is the only place to sell) and has not sold any hammers that I can see: A couple of anvils and that is about it plus they were over a year ago.

    Perhaps it as simple as a poor grasp of the english language or he has run out of meds. If there was no insidious intent, a quick reply would clear up any misunderstanding.

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    The grammar's a bit disheveled which, given the hour the message was sent, may suggest some tippling was involved.
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    I really don't understand what this bit means:
    "... but a soft lead bullet can kill a hard steel face."
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    Everybody who had an opinion agreed that the message was disturbing. The second message received yesterday evening is notable mostly for the fact that no hint of apology was included such as, 'Sorry for the misunderstanding'. Weird world.
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    anyway back to the main issue

    those hammers look cool
    I like the look of the right angle ones
    I'd get one if I could think of any reasonable use I might get from it

    bit like those lil japanese hammers, love the way the look but can't see meself using one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker View Post
    anyway back to the main issue

    those hammers look cool
    I like the look of the right angle ones
    I'd get one if I could think of any reasonable use I might get from it
    Nick

    There any number of uses:

    You could hammer in the morning....

    You could hammer out danger....

    You could hammer in the evening....

    You could hammer out love....

    and you could hammer out warnings....everywhere you went

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    Nick and Paul,

    I made the hammers for sawsmithing of course but they would serve equally well for forging. Since I have the rather bad habit of grabbing whatever tool is handy and within reach on the spur of the moment when I need to beat on something I've found that they're particularly good for driving punches and chisels and they also do very well for setting the handles of sawsmithing hammers. Given the feel of them I'd imagine them to be great for driving lettering or stamping tools as well.
    The center of mass of the head on this type is much closer to the face than on the few Japanese dog head hammers I've seen, including my Stollmeyer hammers, and the feel is very different in that there is much less tendency to kick to the side if a less than perfectly square blow is struck.

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    Rob

    I know you have paid particular attention to the hardening process of these hammers. How do they compare to traditional hammers and I appreciate that there may be differences there between say, a carpenter's claw hammer and an engineer's ball pein hammer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Rob

    I know you have paid particular attention to the hardening process of these hammers. How do they compare to traditional hammers and I appreciate that there may be differences there between say, a carpenter's claw hammer and an engineer's ball pein hammer?

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    These are the data I have so far:

    Stollmeyer 1.5 lb dogshead = HRC 51
    Stollmeyer 2.5 lb dogshead = HRC 44
    Dogshead dishing 1.5 lb = HRC 52
    Farrier 2.5 lb rounding = HRC 46
    1lb twist peen sawsmith = HRC 45
    20 oz. carpenter = HRC 37
    48 oz. ball peen engineer = HRC 51
    2 lb diagonal peen = HRC 58
    3.5 lb. diagonal peen = HRC 57
    2.5 lb cross-peen/straight peen = HRC 57.5
    1.5 lb straight peen / square = HRC 60.5
    Japanese saw setting hammer S = HRC 49
    Japanese saw setting hammer M = HRC 49
    Japanese saw setting hammer L = HRC 51
    3.0 lb cross face = HRC 59
    3.5 lb cross face = HRC 53
    2.5 lb cross face = HRC 60

    My hammers so far have been:

    No. 3 Dog's head = HRC 51
    No. 1 Dog's head = HRC 50
    No. 3 Two faced stretching = HRC 50
    No. 1 Dog's head = HRC 48
    No. 2 Dog's head = HRC 48
    No. 3 Dog's head = HRC 46
    No. 4 Dog's head = HRC 46
    No. 4 Dog's head = HRC 46
    No. 2 Dog's head = HRC 53
    No. 3 Dog's head = HRC 44
    No. 3 Stretching/straightening = HRC 56
    No. 2 Two faced stretching = HRC 51
    No. 4 Dog's head = HRC 47
    No. 3 Dog's head = HRC 49
    No. 2 Dog's head = HRC 50
    No. 4 Dog's head = HRC 46
    No. 1 Dog's head = HRC 50
    No. 2 Dog's head = HRC 49
    No. 2 Stretching/Straightening = HRC 55

    With use all of these figures will increase. If the study I did of saw steel is any guide a bit of use will increase the hardness about 4% or HRC +2. Cryotreatment will produce a similar result with the added benefit increased toughness and 4140 is already very tough steel.

    The faces of all of my hammers are finished with 80 gr sandpaper. Rougher surfaces generally return hardness readings that are lower the real hardness than do polished surfaces and it is generally accepted that polishing with 320 gr. + is needed to get accurate HRC testing results, I simply haven't had time to take these hammers that far yet.

    I have no idea of the alloys used in the heads of the hammers not of my manufacture as some of them are not new I'm sure that work hardening has taken place for several of them.

    My dog's head hammers are in the same range as Stollmeyers and my twist faced hammers are a little harder and a few of points softer than are the antique sawsmithing hammers in my collection at between HRC 50-55.

    I'll add more as I go along, gotta get ready for the LN show on Friday...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Nick

    There any number of uses:

    You could hammer in the morning....

    You could hammer out danger....

    You could hammer in the evening....

    You could hammer out love....

    and you could hammer out warnings....everywhere you went

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    You could 'Get hammered' or 'Put the hammer down' or 'Hammer out the details' too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob streeper View Post
    You could 'Get hammered'
    Funny you should mention that - you haven't seen Paul pour (and consume) a glass of wine. The idea of leaving some airspace in the glass for aromas to accumulate seems to have bypassed him - possibly because not enough time passes for accumulation...... (and also because there is soon plenty of air in the glass anyway)

    The Hammers look great Rob. Way out of my expertise for specific comment etc, but they sure look like a quality bit of kit. Gotta love this resurgence of boutique hand tool craftsmen.
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    I'll be sending some hammers to a California warehouse address for shipment to Australia soon, so if anyone wants one PM me.
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    Just returned from the LN Hand Tool Event in Dallas. Most people asked 'What do you do with those?" I ended up selling more saw kits, despite the fact that I hand no saw kits with me, than hammers but the crowd was very interested in saw tensioning. I spent better than 90% of my time describing my data and showing people how to tension saw blades.
    The tool restoration folks were buying so that they could re-tension older saws that had been sharpened so much that the toothline was eating into the zone that was factory tension causing waves in the saw plates. Several requests for anvils too.
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    Rob
    It's actually really great to hear so much interest in quality hand tools.
    Do you have any pics of the events??

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    Only a few goofy ones. A fellow was making video, took some shots of me tensioning a blade and said he'd be putting it on his Youtube channel. Check here later, nothing new now (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzz...9juN3GA/videos).

    This is one of them.

    Me in Dallas at LNHTE.JPG

    We'll be doing more at the Houston event too. https://www.lie-nielsen.com/hand-tool-events/USA/55
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