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20th April 2016, 06:46 PM #16Senior Member
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Here you go Vann, just to give you your fix for the day.
35836 - WS240 early 1950 Aust.
48019 (or 46019 ) - WS290 mid 1954 ( or late 1953) UK
the only 2 WS mills I have details of though I have seen 2 others on fleabay UK.
Remember recite the mantra regularly throughout the day and freedom will come.
Have fun,
Alli
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21st April 2016, 07:30 PM #17Senior Member
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Hi Vann,
Here's your daily fix.
I try to look after you.
I hunted through my pictures and found one of the other WS mills.
41542 - WS267 1952, in fact it was the first machine test no. for 1952, how's that for trivia?
So it seems they only made 12 or so WS mills a year.
Have fun,
Alli
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21st April 2016, 09:35 PM #18
Why you should never paint your Wadkin green!!
Here's why you should avoid green...
aGreen3.JPG aGreen2.JPG aGreen.JPG aGreen4.JPG I think I'm going to throw up .
And here's why grey is just soooo much nicer...
aGrey1.jpg aGrey2.jpg Hmm, yummy .
Cheers, Vann .Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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21st April 2016, 10:08 PM #19
Thanks Alli. These came after a day trawling a UK forum for Wadkin serial and test numbers - with zero result (of course I can't use the second one without confirming the test number)
Originally Posted by Allison74
4501 - MA 263 - pre-1937 - UK;
4653 - EV 793 - pre-1937 - UK;
9510 - MA 137 (morticer) 1938 - UK;
14979 - EUV 164 - 1940 - UK;
24965 - MA 490 (mortiser) 1945 - UK;
30171 - LS 1925 (router) 1948 - UK;
35844 - RD 855 (buzzer) 1950 - UK;
39932 - MA 1119 - 1951 - UK;
41563 - MA 1195 (morticer) 1952 - UK;
45723 - RS 1404 (lathe) 1953 - UK;
57045 - EQ 1061 (spindle moulder) 1957 - UK.
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21st April 2016, 10:34 PM #20
Updated List: Wadkins by Test No.
Added machines in bold. Test number, followed by model & serial number, then country of residence...
Pre-1937
1313 - JY 107 (bobbin sander) – Australia;
2085 - ME 239 – New Zealand;
3197 - RS 133 – New Zealand (RIP);
4501 - MA 263 - UK;
4616 - PKA 266 – UK;
4653 - EV 793 - UK;
4713 - DH 163 (bandsaw) – New Zealand;
4818 - PL 105 (dimension saw) – UK > USA
5029 - RTA 148 – UK;
5391 - MN 133 - Canada;
7336 - EPA 646 (spindle moulder) - NZ;
7665 - ME 513 (mortiser) - Australia;
7671 - RS 115 – UK;
1937
8446 - MJ 413 – UK;
9067 - PKA 390 – Australia;
9335 - RBA 183 (buzzer) – UK;
1938
9510 - MA 137 (morticer) - UK;
9650 - PKA 405 – Australia;
9783 - PKA 412 - UK.
1939
11454 - RU 161 (lathe) - UK;
11455 - CC 1059 - New Zealand;
1940
14594 - PKA 554 - Ireland;
14979 - EUV 164 - UK;
15111 - RDA 441 (buzzer) – Australia;
1941
17392 - PKA 613 - UK;1942
18695 - PKA 643 - New Zealand;
1944
22583 - PKA 725 - Scotland > Canada;
1945
24671 - PKA 785 - Australia;
24965 - MA 490 (mortiser) - UK;
25031 - PKA 800 - New Zealand;
27390 - MA 563 – UK;
1946
26657 - LQA 415 - USA;
26763 - MG 699 - New Zealand;
1947
29157 - PKA 969 - UK;
1948
30171 - LS 1925 (router) - UK;
30253 - PKA 994 - UK;
31145 - RD 694 - New Zealand;
1949
35284 - RE 668 (thicknesser) - Canada;
1950
35723 - PK 1202 - UK;
35836 - WS240 (pattern mill) - Australia;
35844 - RD 855 (buzzer) - UK;
35898 - RR 142 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
36021 - RTA 339 - New Zealand;
36376 - RT 357 - New Zealand;
36408 - RE 705 (thicknesser) - New Zealand;
36554 - PK 1231 - UK;
36572 - PKF 108 - Canada;
37023 - PK 1271 - USA;
37264 - PK 1277 - Australia;
37564 - RS 1126 (lathe) - UK;
37727 - CQ 237 - Australia;
38139 - MG 987 - New Zealand;
38305 - SQ 319 - New Zealand;
38458 - FD 799 (five head moulder) – New Zealand;
1951
38946 - CC 2388 - New Zealand;
39932 - MA 1119 - UK;40404 - RTA 405 - UK;
41145 - RTA 380 - New Zealand;
41376 - RM 2039 - Canada;
1952
41542 - WS267 (pattern mill) - first machine test no. for 1952
41563 - MA 1195 (morticer) - UK;
41587 - SP 610 - Australia;
41689 - PK 1437 - Canada;
420256 - PK 1445 - Canada;
42461 - PK 1451 - Canada;
42578 - RS 1291 (wood lathe) - Canada;
42825 - RR 299 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
1953
45347 - LQ 674 - New Zealand;
45723 - RS 1404 (lathe) - UK;
46020 - RS 1415 (wood lathe) - Canada;
46212 - JY 498 (bobbin sander) - Canada;
46284 - NQ 312-S - Canada?;
1954
48966 - LM 1266 - UK;
49379 - PK 1702 - Canada;
49784 - PK 1718 - Canada;
50585 - FD 1125 - Canada?
1955
50716 - PK 1754 - New Zealand;
51434 - PK 1778 - Canada > USA;
51952 - RTA 440 (lathe) - UK;
1956
53723 - PK 1863 - Canada;
53792 - RK 282 (thicknesser) – USA;
54256 - PK 1882 - USA;
54421 - PK 1887 - UK;
54425 - PK 1892 - Australia;
54477 - PK 1899 - Canada > USA;
54478 - PK 1900 - UK;
54521 - RM 2817 - New Zealand;
54580 - JY 569 (bobbin sander) - Canada;
54581 - CC 3253 (RAS) - Canada;
55049 - PK 1947 - Australia;
55228 - LQ 865 - Canada;
55670 - PK 1975 - Canada;
55676 - PK 1982 - UK;
1957
57045 - EQ 1061 (spindle moulder) - UK.
I'll add more as they come to my attention. Feel free to contribute.
Cheers, Vann.Last edited by Vann; 22nd April 2016 at 06:46 PM. Reason: ME 513 & EPA 646 added
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22nd April 2016, 09:08 AM #21Senior Member
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I've got a ME513, test no 7665, chain chisel mortiser.
Cheers,
Andrew.
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22nd April 2016, 08:17 PM #22GOLD MEMBER
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I see chair maker (and forumite) Glen Rundell picked up an RS lathe today - RS2512.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BEfoIUwq...dellandrundell
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22nd April 2016, 08:34 PM #23
I need a Test No. to add it to the list. But that tailstock handwheel suggests Bursgreen era, as does the high Serial No. - so it's probably much later than 1957 (currently the end of the list). I'm pleased to see that I've got Richard Findlay's RS 1126 in there though.
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24th April 2016, 09:28 PM #24
Added machines in bold. Test number, followed by model & serial number, then country of residence...
Pre-1937
1313 - JY 107 (bobbin sander) – Australia;
2085 - ME 239 – New Zealand;
3197 - RS 133 – New Zealand (RIP);
4501 - MA 263 - UK;
4616 - PKA 266 – UK;
4653 - EV 793 - UK;
4713 - DH 163 (bandsaw) – New Zealand;
4818 - PL 105 (dimension saw) – UK > USA
5029 - RTA 148 – UK;
5391 - MN 133 - Canada;
7336 - EPA 646 (spindle moulder) - NZ;
7665 - ME 513 (mortiser) - Australia;
7671 - RS 115 – UK;
1937
8446 - MJ 413 – UK;
9067 - PKA 390 – Australia;
9335 - RBA 183 (buzzer) – UK;
1938
9510 - MA 137 (morticer) - UK;
9650 - PKA 405 – Australia;
9783 - PKA 412 - UK.
1939
11454 - RU 161 (lathe) - UK;
11455 - CC 1059 - New Zealand;
1940
14594 - PKA 554 - Ireland;
14979 - EUV 164 - UK;
15111 - RDA 441 (buzzer) – Australia;
1941
17392 - PKA 613 - UK;1942
18695 - PKA 643 - New Zealand;
1944
22583 - PKA 725 - Scotland > Canada;
1945
24671 - PKA 785 - Australia;
24965 - MA 490 (mortiser) - UK;
25031 - PKA 800 - New Zealand;
27390 - MA 563 – UK;
1946
26657 - LQA 415 - USA;
26763 - MG 699 - New Zealand;
1947
29157 - PKA 969 - UK;
1948
30171 - LS 1925 (router) - UK;
30253 - PKA 994 - UK;
31145 - RD 694 - New Zealand;
1949
35284 - RE 668 (thicknesser) - Canada;
1950
35723 - PK 1202 - UK;
35836 - WS240 (pattern mill) - Australia;
35844 - RD 855 (buzzer) - UK;
35898 - RR 142 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
36021 - RTA 339 - New Zealand;
36376 - RT 357 - New Zealand;
36408 - RE 705 (thicknesser) - New Zealand;
36554 - PK 1231 - UK;
36572 - PKF 108 - Canada;
37023 - PK 1271 - USA;
37264 - PK 1277 - Australia;
37564 - RS 1126 (lathe) - UK;
37727 - CQ 237 - Australia;
38139 - MG 987 - New Zealand;
38305 - SQ 319 - New Zealand;
38458 - FD 799 (five head moulder) – New Zealand;
1951
38946 - CC 2388 - New Zealand;
39932 - MA 1119 - UK;40404 - RTA 405 - UK;
40404 - RTA 405 (lathe) - UK;
41072 - RS 1233 (RS 10 lathe) - Canada;
41075 - RS 1236 (RS 6 lathe) - Canada;
41145 - RTA 380 - New Zealand;
41376 - RM 2039 - Canada;
1952
41542 - WS267 (pattern mill) - first machine test no. for 1952
41563 - MA 1195 (morticer) - UK;
41587 - SP 610 - Australia;
41689 - PK 1437 - Canada;
420256 - PK 1445 - Canada;
42461 - PK 1451 - Canada;
42578 - RS 1291 (wood lathe) - Canada;
42825 - RR 299 (buzzer) - New Zealand;
1953
45347 - LQ 674 - New Zealand;
45723 - RS 1404 (lathe) - UK;
46020 - RS 1415 (wood lathe) - Canada;
46212 - JY 498 (bobbin sander) - Canada;
46284 - NQ 312-S - Canada?;
1954
48966 - LM 1266 - UK;
49379 - PK 1702 - Canada;
49784 - PK 1718 - Canada;
50585 - FD 1125 - Canada?
1955
50716 - PK 1754 - New Zealand;
51434 - PK 1778 - Canada > USA;
51952 - RTA 440 (lathe) - UK;
1956
53723 - PK 1863 - Canada;
53792 - RK 282 (thicknesser) – USA;
54256 - PK 1882 - USA;
54421 - PK 1887 - UK;
54425 - PK 1892 - Australia;
54477 - PK 1899 - Canada > USA;
54478 - PK 1900 - UK;
54521 - RM 2817 - New Zealand;
54580 - JY 569 (bobbin sander) - Canada;
54581 - CC 3253 (RAS) - Canada;
55049 - PK 1947 - Australia;
55228 - LQ 865 - Canada;
55670 - PK 1975 - Canada;
55676 - PK 1982 - UK;
1957
56040 - RS 3777 (RS8 lathe) - Canada;
57045 - EQ 1061 (spindle moulder) - Denmark.
I've been looking for patterns in the numbers (although the sample so far is quite small). There seem to be some anomalies, such as my RTA 380 (test 41145) was tested later than Mark (wallace)'s RTA 405 (test 40404).
RTA380t.jpg RTA405t.jpg
And RS 115 (the 15th RS produced, we think) has test number 7671 - indicating it was tested about 1936. Whereas RS 133 (presumably the 33rd RS produced) has test number 3197 - indicating it was tested several years earlier.
aRTA115.jpg aRS133.jpg note very different style of tags
The only two consecutive test numbers so far: 11454 and 11455, of 1939, have nothing in common - the first being RU 161, a lathe sold in the UK; the second being CC 1059, a saw exported to New Zealand. I'd have thought they'd be made or sold in batches, so that consecutive numbers would indicate either batches assembled together, or batches ordered/exported together. The first suggestion that they did some machines in batches shows with test numbers 41072 and 41075 (just three numbers apart) of 1951, belonging to RS 1233 (RS 10 lathe) and RS 1236 (RS 6 lathe), and both exported to Canada (along with 41073 & 41074 maybe?).
Cheers, Vann.Last edited by Vann; 25th April 2016 at 01:51 PM. Reason: 57045 (1957) country corrected (was 'UK')
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Any idea where the test number allocation fitted into the manufacturing lifecycle?
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25th April 2016, 01:48 PM #26
Idea? My best guesstimate is the testing was carried out immediately before shipping. So if the machines went into storage as they were completed, then left and were tested on a last-in first-out basis, that would explain earlier serial numbers with later test numbers.
But surely that would be bad business practice, as some customers would receive out-of-date models when stocks were low?
All just theory .
Cheers, Vann.Last edited by Vann; 26th April 2016 at 08:11 AM. Reason: spelling
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25th April 2016, 08:18 PM #27
Wash your mouth out with soap.
Wadkins out of date?
NEVER.
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Vann ,Greetings from Geelong,
Here are my Wadkin numbers
PK1277 Test:3726
NH510 Test:66717
EQ2427 Test:70255
BL150 #77313 Wadkin Bursgreen
Cheers
Tony
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