Thread: First Class Passenger Carriage (Early 1900's)

Congratulations Keith. You have found international fame (if you had not already through the forum).
Perhaps they should include a reference to this forum for details of the build of both Lion and the D4.

Keep the wheels turning on the carriage build. Even if it is a pane (or is it pain) to do the windows, it will be worth it in the end.

Originally Posted by Keith_1

Hi guys,

Though I would share this with you - Got an email from the UK this morning - I am pretty chuffed.

email attached (From Lion Preservation Society)

"Hello Keith,
How are you? I wonder what your next project will be.
You sent a picture of your latest, the 4-6-2T to Alan Banks, which he passed on to me. So, I’ve included it in the latest Lionsheart, a copy of which is attached. It’s on page 6. By the way, what is the prototype?
I’ve already had an email from Geoff Theasby, of Model Engineer Magazine. He would like a copy of the photo. Is that OK with you? Please let me know – I’ll not send it until I get the go ahead from you.
With Best Wishes - John"

I have sent photos of the finished loco and also some photos of the bogies I am working on with the carriage.

Attached is the Newsletter from the UK

Best Regards

Keith

Attachment 381347

Well done Keith a well deserved write up good to be recognised around the world, also fantastic about the Model Engineer magazine wanting your photo's of the build it is a great feeling especially when you see something of yours in print so hope to see it in the magazine, I know it is as I had my 1937 ford build in it's sister mag the Woodworker some time ago.

Originally Posted by Handyjack

Congratulations Keith. You have found international fame (if you had not already through the forum).
Perhaps they should include a reference to this forum for details of the build of both Lion and the D4.

Keep the wheels turning on the carriage build. Even if it is a pane (or is it pain) to do the windows, it will be worth it in the end.

Thanks Kevin,

I have been working on the many components that make up the brake assemblies on the 8 bogie wheels. Lots of machining work and had a bit of a hiccup at the start when I didn't get my scale correct. May have some photos of the assembly components today. Lots of work - even on the bogies and still haven't got onto the carriage proper yet.
Up to the Railway Museum yesterday It poured rain and I got soaked, but got detail photos of the brake actuator and air reservoir that activates the brakes (although will be difficult to see beneath the carriage when assembled.

All the Best

Keith

Thanks Derek for your kind words. It is good to see my model in an overseas publication - The people at Lion are very nice friendly people.

Thanks and Best Regards

Keith

Congratulations Charlie well deserved all round!.

Cheers
Trev.

Hi All,

As stated previously, I have been working on the brake components for the bogies. The brakes themselves - I drew up the outline and then made 8 copies and pasted the copies onto pine which I had reduced down to 13mm thick. I then cut out the shape on scroll saw and then filed and sanded. The shoes I made separately - they are 15mm wide, I glued them onto the previously made brake shoe bracket. I think the difference in thickness adds authenticity to the brake.
The top brake support bracket is made from dowel (which I drilled 4mm) and pine - glued together. These will eventually be bolted to the bogie frame.
There are 16 shafts I machined out of aluminium that fit in the brake shoe bracket and the top bracket. These are joined by a shaft made out of 4mm Mild Steel.
The long shaft that connects each brake shoe is made of 6.5mm aluminium. I have turned each end down to 4mm and then threaded 4mm to allow me to locate with nuts at each end. The middle of this shaft will have another shaft connected that attaches to a cantilever bracket assembly which in turn is connected to the brake actuator that will be located underneath mid carriage.
The assembly shown is supported at this stage by some timber blocks I made up - just to give an idea on how the brakes will look.
There is a lot of work making up the components for this brake assembly. The more it progresses - the more you find you have to do. Don't know when I will be off the bogies and onto the main carriage.
It's really enjoyable though

Regards

Keith

brake assembly.jpg brake components.jpg

Top class, looks like the real deal!

Hi All,

More work done on the brake assemblies today.

Have machined and threaded all the shafts and temporarily fitted all brakes to both bogies. I have put my "mock" carriage base on to check clearances etc.

The hole in the centre shaft that holds the brakes apart is where the connection to the linkages fits. This in turn connects to the brake actuator.

I think this photo gives a better indication of the brake system than the one posted yesterday.

All the Best

Keith

bogie brake assy.jpg

All i can say is WOW

Originally Posted by Keith_1

Thanks Kevin,


Up to the Railway Museum yesterday It poured rain and I got soaked, but got detail photos of the brake actuator and air reservoir that activates the brakes (although will be difficult to see beneath the carriage when assembled.

All the Best

Keith

brake actuator - Brake cylinder and piston, and air reservoir - ​Auxiliary reservoir. There will also be a "triple valve" as well as the associated pipe work.
The auxiliary reservoir holds a supply of air (about 65 - 70 p.s.i.) to apply the brake via the brake cylinder and piston when there is a reduction of pressure in the train pipe due to an application of the brake by the driver or rupture of the train pipe (eg vehicle being uncoupled by accident). The triple valve controls the flow of air from 1/ the train pipe to the auxiliary reservoir to charge the reservoir, 2/ from the auxiliary reservoir to the brake cylinder to apply the brake, and 3/ from the brake cylinder to atmosphere to release the brake.

Keith, its looking good. Soon you will be in mass production mode. The more you do, the more you will understand how it works. It will help you when you work on vehicles with air brakes on the Bellarine Railway.

Originally Posted by Handyjack

brake actuator - Brake cylinder and piston, and air reservoir - ​Auxiliary reservoir. There will also be a "triple valve" as well as the associated pipe work.
The auxiliary reservoir holds a supply of air (about 65 - 70 p.s.i.) to apply the brake via the brake cylinder and piston when there is a reduction of pressure in the train pipe due to an application of the brake by the driver or rupture of the train pipe (eg vehicle being uncoupled by accident). The triple valve controls the flow of air from 1/ the train pipe to the auxiliary reservoir to charge the reservoir, 2/ from the auxiliary reservoir to the brake cylinder to apply the brake, and 3/ from the brake cylinder to atmosphere to release the brake.

Keith, its looking good. Soon you will be in mass production mode. The more you do, the more you will understand how it works. It will help you when you work on vehicles with air brakes on the Bellarine Railway.

Off to the Railway tomorrow. Actually making up some brackets for one of the carriages they are refurbishing

Regards

Keith

Originally Posted by Keith_1

Off to the Railway tomorrow. Actually making up some brackets for one of the carriages they are refurbishing

Regards

Keith

OK Pete,

I will try and get some photos today

Regards

Keith

Originally Posted by Keith_1

OK Pete,

I will try and get some photos today

Regards

Keith

Peter,

A couple of photos.

The front and rear sections of the Garratt that is being rebuilt. The cabin and boiler is on the track behind.

Work being carried out on the carriage. I have been making up some of the right angle brackets.

Regards

Keith

carriage.jpg garratt.jpg

Originally Posted by Keith_1

Peter,

A couple of photos.

The front and rear sections of the Garratt that is being rebuilt. The cabin and boiler is on the track behind.

Work being carried out on the carriage. I have been making up some of the right angle brackets.

Regards

Keith

carriage.jpg garratt.jpg

THANK YOU Keith.... looks like you have more than a little job ahead of you making & then fitting all those brackets...well done sir, Cheers Peter