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  1. #166
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    Then I suggest the mind set has to be changed and doing that might require a professional approach from people who have done it before.
    CHRIS

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    Things are improving compared to where it was when the thread first started.

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    Last Friday went reasonably smoothly, one new guy using a bandsaw with no eye protection was about the worst of it.

    We have a younger bloke with "issues" and his minder attending for a a day a week for couple of weeks just to see how they go. I got them to help me with a couple of jobs and they turned out to be pretty good value so will be returning next week.

    Here are few products the blokes have been turning out.
    Raised metal letter sign for a local preschool - the kids will paint the letters in bright colours.
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    Turntable box
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    Fire pit
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    HD planter boxes -
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    I realised I had not posted in this thread for a while, probably because the safety situation has slowly improved, and in late October 2016 I informed the shed committee that I would only be available for shed coordination duties for the rest of the year.

    During January the shed was not officially open for regular members and I used that quiet time to make substantial progress with the dust extraction system.

    Today was the first day back with regular shed members present.
    It was very pleasant to not feel the weight of responsibility and get on with finishing the dust extraction system.
    Most of the construction is done at home in my own shed and I will only be going into the men's shed to install the remainder of the system.

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    Get some fake hands, fingers and fake blood Get there early.

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    Got sick of my BIL sending me gory photos of his back surgery so I mocked this up and sent it to him.
    Its Marri gum,
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    I'm glad I read the few words before I scrolled down to the picture!

    Alan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Al View Post
    I'm glad I read the few words before I scrolled down to the picture!

    Alan...
    Yeah I have scared the pants off a few folks with that photo!

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    The men's shed is designed to get men out of the house primarily to prevent mental health issues after they retire.

    The last thing you want to do is over regulate the place because they will simply not turn up.

    Put up the relevant signs about PPE.

    Run an induction on each machine for everyone and then for new members.

    You have met your insurance requirements.

    Now if someone chooses to wear normal glasses with the grinder so be it. Better they turn up and injure an eye than not turn up because they are being policed and end up taking their life due to depression.

    Even a bad cut from a machine is preferable to major depression.





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    Quote Originally Posted by dazzler View Post
    The men's shed is designed to get men out of the house primarily to prevent mental health issues after they retire.
    You seem to be implying that the most mental health issues happen to men after they retire.
    While retirement can exacerbate some Men's mental Health problems it's only one of many factors.
    We have some some quite young members with mental health issues, and some retired members who developed mental health issues well before they retired.
    For some it's been the employment they were involved with that has contributed to their mental health problems and retirement has improved their situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by dazzler View Post
    Now if someone chooses to wear normal glasses with the grinder so be it. Better they turn up and injure an eye than not turn up because they are being policed and end up taking their life due to depression.
    That's the spirit of the movement but unfortunately that does not protect the organisation or the supervisor from a litigious member or relative suing the pants off everything in sight if something goes pear shaped.
    That's mainly why I stopped being a supervisor.

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    1. Didn't imply what you suggested at all. Most men who frequent men's shed are retired hence the reference.

    2. It is incredibly rare for an employee supervisor to be pursued for a breach of WHS it is the corporation/owner/entity that is liable.

    It only occurs where a gross breach of care occurs on the supervisors part and that is through a direct action such as demanding an employee to perform an action contrary to safe practices.

    The role you have taken on is administrative. You need only perform that role and you are covered.

    So to answer your initial question.

    1. Supply PPE and safety signs
    2. Conduct induction in correct use of tools and machines.

    You can lead them to water, can't make them drink.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dazzler View Post
    It is incredibly rare for an employee supervisor to be pursued for a breach of WHS it is the corporation/owner/entity that is liable.
    I agree but as a shed supervisor I was not an employee and not covered by the OHS act, I was a volunteer so not really covered for anything except my own medical expenses, and do we want to talk about how much training I had to get into that role?
    The people that sue, chase money and they care naught for who or what you are.
    We have been given all manner of assurances but and I know I'm overly cautious but its a risk I was not prepared to continue taking.

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    Some off-topic posts have been deleted, please keep this thread on topic.

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    Hi Bob I haven't read all the pages of this thread and do not know if anyone else has suggested this but i think you should make the offenders read these pages.
    You never know it might be all that's needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitey56 View Post
    Hi Bob I haven't read all the pages of this thread and do not know if anyone else has suggested this but i think you should make the offenders read these pages.
    You never know it might be all that's needed.

    Hey whitey

    Bob will do this after you show him how to herd cats.



    Cheers

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