Thread: First Class Passenger Carriage (Early 1900's)

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Originally Posted by Keith_1

The next level above the windows was going to have some highlight windows (about 15mm wide X 70mm long) and I priced some red glass (3mm) - $750 per square metre !!!!! I may see if I can tint some clear 2mm glass - 2mm glass is cheap

Have a look at sign companies or plastics fabricators for red Perspex Keith.
I have been following this build from the get go, and am constantly amazed at your skill and patience in bringing it all together. Making the framework from such small sections of timber on a grand scale and getting everything square must be quite a challenge, but you are obviously up to such a challenge.

Enough of fiddling with the computer, now get back into he workshop and continue with your masterpiece.

Alan...

Thankyou guys,

Really appreciate your efforts in assisting me. It is an enjoyable build but as I go along I find different methods of doing things so there is much rework. The Entry doors a getting a refurbish tomorrow (I am off to the real trains today) So the doors will be at about Version 6 - Good Idea about the red perspex too Al . When you look around there are many alternatives that will give a good outcome. Thanks Derek for the time looking up the Aussie supplies. You are all excellent guys - THANKS

Best Regards

Keith

Originally Posted by Keith_1

...... and I priced some red glass (3mm) - $750 per square metre !!!!!

Regards

Keith

Hi Keith,
Red glass is made with GOLD and so unfortunately, it is priced accordingly. I recently designed and quoted a window and fanlight to go beside and above a domestic front door and nearly a third of the total cost including labour, was the red glass in the flowers! The client went with another maker and has since rung me to say that he has "thankfully seen the window being made" and it is made with pink glass not red! I expressed a suitable amount of sympathy?
I have some red glass offcuts for you but it would be too thick to use on the Royal carriage and, more importantly, the texture of the glass would appear out of scale?
I think that red plastic would have the right colour and scale texture especially as you won't be impacted by the UV degradation that normally happens with outdoor exposure?
fletty

Keith i can get red transparent acrylic pretty cheap with my laser account, if you want any let me know, happy to cut up some for you at cost

Originally Posted by fletty

Hi Keith,
Red glass is made with GOLD and so unfortunately, it is priced accordingly. I recently designed and quoted a window and fanlight to go beside and above a domestic front door and nearly a third of the total cost including labour, was the red glass in the flowers! The client went with another maker and has since rung me to say that he has "thankfully seen the window being made" and it is made with pink glass not red! I expressed a suitable amount of sympathy?
I have some red glass offcuts for you but it would be too thick to use on the Royal carriage and, more importantly, the texture of the glass would appear out of scale?
I think that red plastic would have the right colour and scale texture especially as you won't be impacted by the UV degradation that normally happens with outdoor exposure?
fletty

Thanks for the info Alan - Gold - Never would have known - now understand the unbelievable cost.

I was speaking to one of the bosses at the Railway today and he said they use a lot of red plastic in the signals now and not glass.

Also found some stuff from Spotlight that you can paint on 2mm glass and bake in the oven at 160 degrees C and that gives the glass a red colour transparency. Looks like there are a number of options available. Thanks Jack for you offer of acrylic - I will keep in touch.

As said earlier - Thanks everyone for your input.

Regards

Keith

Hi All,

Well I went onto version 6 of my Royal Carriage Entry doors and I think I have finally got something that I wanted.

I wasn't happy with my original stuff. I went to the glass suppliers and got some more glass. (Cheated - got some patterned glass - but if it looks OK - I think that is OK). This is 3mm thick glass so I had to modify the frame material I make up to suit the thicker glass. I made a 3.5mm groove and a bit deeper than the standard carriage window frame. The doors are made in 2 halves and then joined. The bottom section is grooved (as for the glass) but I inserted 3mm MDF.
I am now onto new door handles and door key lock assemblies.

Regards

Keith

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Now that's a door that would take days to make.
This vehicle would not be suitable for everyday use as the fretwork would take too long to keep clean with all the brake dust and dirt that would build up on it in use.
Again if not for the clamps you would think it was full size. Perhaps next time there will be a can or two and a bottle left on the platform after the elves, sorry builders knock off for the day.

It's looking fantastic. I follow every step of this build, but since I can't think of anything other than fantastic, I won't post that every time...

On the way up to Mildura the other day I dropped in on Charlie and had a look at the Carriage.
I have to say no matter how impressive it appears on the forum it's nothing compared to seeing it!.
"What an amazing piece of work"

I also got to see the finished D4 Locomotive for the first time "Wonderful" doesn't even come close to describing it.
You'd swear your looking at a engineered live steam model!.

I can only suggest if your in his neck of the woods and have the chance "Go and get an eye full of his craftsmanship".
It's truly inspirational!.

Charlie (Keith) and Cathie are two of the nicest people you'll ever meet.

All I can say is "WOW Charlie Boy" and keep it coming!.

Cheers
Trev.

Originally Posted by Repliconics

On the way up to Mildura the other day I dropped in on Charlie and had a look at the Carriage.
I have to say no matter how impressive it appears on the forum it's nothing compared to seeing it!.
"What an amazing piece of work"

I also got to see the finished D4 Locomotive for the first time "Wonderful" doesn't even come close to describing it.
You'd swear your looking at a engineered live steam model!.

I can only suggest if your in his neck of the woods and have the chance "Go and get an eye full of his craftsmanship".
It's truly inspirational!.

Charlie (Keith) and Cathie are two of the nicest people you'll ever meet.

All I can say is "WOW Charlie Boy" and keep it coming!.

Cheers
Trev.

You flatter me Trev,

It was absolutely tremendous having you come around and share stories and advise me on buying a spray gun for the carriage (a long time in the future task)
If anybody is coming down Torquay way - you are quite welcome to come and share a yarn and a coffee. Just send me a PM

Again - Cathie and I thank you for coming and sharing your expertise and knowledge with us both.

All the Best

Charlie (Keith) and Cathie

Hi All,

I have been working on the main entry doors hardware for last 2 days. Wanted to see the doors semi complete. The biggest pain was making the key lock section. I first tried making out of bodyfiller ,but when I started to drill the key shape the whole lot crumbled. My next step was to try and make it out of aluminium rod. I turned it down to the diameter I wanted and then centre propped the key shape in the end. Then drilled 1.5mm for the bottom key section in a line and transversely down the aluminium rod. I broke 3 drills doing this I then drilled the top 2.5mm hole. Then put it back in the lathe and cut off 1.5mm wide. Used needle files to clean up and then used 120 grit paper to sand the plates smooth. No fingernails left but happy with outcome.
The door handle knobs are beads from .... Spotlight... The handle backing plate is turned aluminium and the shaft is a 1.5mm nail. Then painted the lot with primer and then Super Gold paint.

Made up some wine glasses out of clear multi faceted beads and glued them to another bead component (from the same place as above). I have also added the bottles of Port. Always in the good books when I take Cathie to Spotlight though

I have added a photo with my old beer can to give a size comparison.

I am now back onto my carriage compartment main framing.

Regards

Keith

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Hi All,

Thought I might share this with you. A carriage from Bavaria.

Unbelievable

Regards

Keith

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Hi All,

Hope the weather wherever you are is a bit better than we have had down here. Quite wet.

Anyway - still been able to get out into the shed and I have been working on the layout and internal framing of my Royal Carriage.

The first photo shows an "aerial" view of the layout. The back of the train carriage is actually the entry to the Royal Carriage.

The first room is a Reception Area and bar. I have made all internal doors full length clear glass as it allows better viewing through the carriage.

The second room is a Conference Room - where there can be round table discussion. This leads into the 3rd Room

This is the Royal Dining area - All rooms are pretty small, but think they will end up quite ostentatious.

The next room is the Private Sitting Room which allows entry to the Royal Bedroom. I have made the door to the bedroom out of opaque patterned glass (for privacy)

There is an arched corridor beside the bedroom that allows travel along the carriage without entering the bedroom. This corridor will be timber panel lined roof longitudinally that will be made of oak.

The bedroom is the equivalent of 2 compartments long and will contain 2 single beds.

The last area is the washroom and amenities area and this has the other carriage entry door.

I am pretty happy how its coming together. I am really happy with my glass cutting. It was my biggest fear when I started the carriage, but after cutting over 50 pieces - its easy (but only do ONE score of the glass)

I am going to do a fair bit of wallpapering internally I think - so I am now looking at making my own wallpaper to give it's own unique style

Take Care and keep dry

Regards

Keith

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