Thread: Incra CleanSweep

Hi all.

So with all this talk of effective dust extraction, I thought I would share my experience.

I have had my router table for a while now and am pretty happy with it's under table extraction. It was not designed with any pre-conceived ideas or plans, just made on the go.

Two days ago I used it for over an hour sizing, rebating, grooving and chamfering quite a few pieces of different types of wood. In that hour i'm guessing the router was operating for maybe 60%-70% of that time and shed temp was in the low 30deg C. It is hooked up to a 2hp dusty (directly with no other tools connected). I'll admit that there was some chips left on top of the table but as you can see in the pic below, the router box was left pretty clean with some dust around the plastic router shrouds and some on the dust port opening. Also the router itself was only warm to the touch. With my old router table (including very poor under table extraction) the router would have been left quite hot after such a work out.

When I first made the table there was quite a bit of dust left underneath so I drilled a series of 4 holes along the bottom of the cabinet door (around 30mm round) and that improved the extraction no end (you can just see one in the pic). Again this was all done on the fly, so i'm guessing the positioning of the dust outlet port and inlet holes on the door opposite create cross flow pulling the dust out of the cabinet. having the router just above the outlet would help cooling. With the dusty on, the door is difficult to open due to the suction.

I use a Woodpecker Aluminium plate and use an insert ring only big enough for the router bit to fit through. Maybe using an insert ring with a bigger hole would improve above the table performance.

I realise what works for me doesn't necessarily suite someone else but I just thought I'd share this to add to the conversation.

Steven.

Steven, do you have any dust extraction on your fence? I can't imagine that doing edge profiling using only 2 HP extraction below the table would leave little dust above the table. If it does then that's brilliant. So it actually performs like the cleansweep. I have no dust doing edge work but dados are a problem.

Originally Posted by barri

Steven, do you have any dust extraction on your fence? I can't imagine that doing edge profiling using only 2 HP extraction below the table would leave little dust above the table. If it does then that's brilliant. So it actually performs like the cleansweep. I have no dust doing edge work but dados are a problem.

Hi barri,

Yes I do have dust extraction at the fence.

At the moment it only has 2" hose to the fence. It is a carry over component from my old router table and I had intentions at the time to upgrade to larger diameter pipe but it's one of those 'gunna' jobs that never gets done. It has suction up there but not as much as I would like to have.

It's something I would like to improve on my table.

Steven.

I built my router table not long after the Cleensweep became available in Australia so I thought I would give it a go.

I reckon that air intake is insufficient through the insert ring if the Cleensweep is mounted directly to the underside of the table so I mounted it to the table using spacers to leave a gap all around the top of the Clearview. I am not convinced that the under table hose needs to be higher up because I think that there is now enough air bypassing the Triton that no dust is left in the Clearview. I also use a 4" hose on the fence and after testing I added a third 4" pipe above the feedout side to take care of dust when cutting a dado. All this get rid of virtually all dust. I am lucky to have a Cleaview so that I can run three 4" pipes.

All in all it's a thumbs up for the Cleansweep.

Any chance of a photo of your set-up safari? My set up for dados needs improvement.
Cheers

Sorry Lappa, I have just moved house and all my gear is still in storage. It will be a couple of months before the new workshop is built because there is a fair bit do do on the house first.

Originally Posted by safari

I built my router table not long after the Cleensweep became available in Australia so I thought I would give it a go.

I reckon that air intake is insufficient through the insert ring if the Cleensweep is mounted directly to the underside of the table so I mounted it to the table using spacers to leave a gap all around the top of the Clearview. I am not convinced that the under table hose needs to be higher up because I think that there is now enough air bypassing the Triton that no dust is left in the Clearview. I also use a 4" hose on the fence and after testing I added a third 4" pipe above the feedout side to take care of dust when cutting a dado. All this get rid of virtually all dust. I am lucky to have a Cleaview so that I can run three 4" pipes.

All in all it's a thumbs up for the Cleansweep.

Safari, I think you might have used the work "Clearview" twice when you meant "Cleansweep"

Not a problem Safari. Good luck with the move.

Thanks Doug, you are right. The first Clearview should read Cleansweep.

Steven,
What size is the hose at the rear of your router table.? I'm tossing up whether to use the 125mm hose and blast gate that I already have available or buy another 150mm fitting and blast gate.

Cheers - Peter

Originally Posted by Lappa

Steven,
What size is the hose at the rear of your router table.? I'm tossing up whether to use the 125mm hose and blast gate that I already have available or buy another 150mm fitting and blast gate.

Cheers - Peter

Hi Peter.

I use standard 4" (100mm) hose to connect my dusty to my router table.

But I must stress I connect my router table directly to my 2hp dusty with 2m of hose with no other tools attached, no blast gates, no ducting, just the router table. Unfortunately my workshop is a single car garage that is also used to house a car, everything gets packed away after use. So any tool that requires the use of the dusty (ie. table saw, thicknesser, router table) must be moved into position, used, then packed away when done. A major PIA but that's my lot.

So, my point is that 100mm works well for me because my table is connected close to the DE and is the only tool in use at that time.

Sorry for the long winded explanation to a simple question, but I thought I needed to clarify.

Steven.

Originally Posted by safari

Thanks Doug, you are right. The first Clearview should read Cleansweep.

I'm interested in what router you use in the cleansweep and does it get hot?

Thanks for the reply. I'm also working in cramped conditions. My shed holds all the household paints, tents etc etc.
I think I'll stay with the 125mm and see how that goes. Are you using a separate line for the fence or feeding that into the 100mm as well? At the moment I've got my fence connected to a separate 50mm line and VC and was wondering whether to leave it or try and integrate it with the 125mm table hose connection.

Originally Posted by Lappa

Thanks for the reply. I'm also working in cramped conditions. My shed holds all the household paints, tents etc etc.
I think I'll stay with the 125mm and see how that goes. Are you using a separate line for the fence or feeding that into the 100mm as well? At the moment I've got my fence connected to a separate 50mm line and VC and was wondering whether to leave it or try and integrate it with the 125mm table hose connection.

Yeah, the fence uses a hose that is tapped into the main line.

There is a pic in post #64 where you can see the fence hose but you cant really see where it connects to the 100mm line at the back of the table. It works ok but a seperate line to the dusty for the fence would certainly improve dust removal above the table.

Steven.