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6th June 2019, 12:16 PM #16Senior Member
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In Newcastle I buy my ply from Mr Plywood near hunter stadium. Better prices and quality than Bunnings for sure! They have a panel saw and will cut to size.
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6th June 2019, 12:40 PM #17GOLD MEMBER
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Don't over think it, an MDF cabinet/box done properly is a good durable thing and the one thing I like about it is it glues just about better and way quicker than anything else.
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6th June 2019, 02:08 PM #18GOLD MEMBER
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Here are the pictures of the birch plywood. The first 3 are the BB/BB and the last 4 are the B/BB. You be the judge but I reckon they’re very nice for what they cost. Some nice figure in the BB/BB board too!
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6th June 2019, 07:05 PM #19
Thanks Groeneaj, those do look good! I had looked at some Birch from another Sydney supplier, their price is around $200 ex for a sheet, and it's pretty much equivalent to the B/BB sheet you show in your photos.
The BB/BB is pretty good stuff too - I'd use it in a heartbeat, but I don't think the price jump from that to the B/BB is too high, so it's open to what one will use it for.
Thanks for taking the time and effort to take and post the photos, particularly the side-on lamination.
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8th January 2020, 10:24 AM #20GOLD MEMBER
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Quick update.
I built a cabinet out of MDF with a piece of left over 22mm red-tongue flooring for the bench top - all worked well, including having to glue one of the side panels after only measuring 15 times and then cutting incorrectly once.
Made an absolute mess of painting it though. I will have to research 'painting MDF' instead of reaching for the nearest tin...
I had an appointment in Sydney yesterday, so I thought, 'what the hell,' and grabbed a Bunnings Trailer and visited Trademaster on my way back.
Their Beech Ply is really nice. I'm not sure what you'd build out of really nice ply, but this would be the stuff to do it with. At around $40 more per sheet than the Bunnings agricultural stuff, it's very good value. If you get around 20+ sheets, they'll start doing bulk discounts
I ended up buying a whole lot of their Okoume ply. This is poplar core with Okoume outers. It's very light, so easy to handle - the missus and I offloaded the trailer without much trouble. Disadvantage is it's potentially quite fragile and susceptible to damage particularly on the cut edges. I figure that as long as I use hardwood edging as I would for MDF, it should be ok. Tim Wilmots used poplar for his benchworks workshop build, and it all went ok. It looks very good.
At $40 a sheet for 18mm, it's not much more than MDF, and half the price of Bunnings ply. No bulk discounts for the Okoume.
Note: The Bunnings big trailer is a few cm too short to take full sheets flat. Dislike!
We'll see how it goes.
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8th January 2020, 11:49 AM #21GOLD MEMBER
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8th January 2020, 02:07 PM #22SENIOR MEMBER
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8th January 2020, 04:32 PM #24GOLD MEMBER
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Only for 2 hours/taking Bunnings stuff home (which I do frequently). 24 hour hire (for the big one) is $60 - which is still next to nothing but does not stop my #firstworldproblems entitled whinging. If I do Sydney collection, I get a trailer the evening before, hit the road by 5am, and have it back the following evening
It's people like you wot cause unrest.
forgot to mention - I asked about delivery to remote areas. They'll freight stuff to your nearest Toll depot. For the 20 sheets I had, delivered to newcastle, he said roughly $120. You then need to pop to the Toll Depot and collect. For the amount of hassle it is to go and collect in person if you're a long way a way, I reckon this is a pretty good option, provided you're buying a decent amount.
Also, the piece at the top of the pile in the picture is one of their worktop offcuts. They have 3 or 4 trolleys of these things - various sizes, colours and condition. Prices are sucked out of a thumb on the spot, and range from $10-40 ish. I grabbed a few - not sure I'll use them but they were so cheap they were worth taking just in case.
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8th January 2020, 07:37 PM #25GOLD MEMBER
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Are the okoume ply solid core?
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8th January 2020, 08:11 PM #26GOLD MEMBER
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Negative. Layers:
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9th January 2020, 02:09 AM #27
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9th January 2020, 06:10 AM #28GOLD MEMBER
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There are some voids - I haven't spotted anything on the edges of my pieces, but I'll be chopping one up and putting some dados in as soon as I can get into the workshop, so we'll see then.
The sample at trademaster had a void on one edge.
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9th January 2020, 11:50 AM #29GOLD MEMBER
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Will be interested in knowing how the voids are distributed in the panel and if the integrity of the board is affected, eg stiffness.
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Will be interested in knowing how the voids are distributed in the panel and if the integrity of the board is affected, eg stiffness. Thanks
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9th January 2020, 10:55 PM #30
I've used a few sheets of their Okume ply for a workbench base, then popped an MDF top on it and went nuts with a Parf guide kit:
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There are *some* voids in this plywood - you are reasonably likely to find one when making any cut in a sheet. Given the price of the material, I figure they're still awesome value for money. In my humble opinion, I don't believe the "veneer" finish on them (which appears to be the thickness of a single "splinter" of wood) would take much, if any wear & tear or abuse. So for anything that's being used, like a table top, workbench top, cart or otherwise, I think this material is likely to look shabby fairly quickly. For the sides of carts, workbenches, and stuff that won't take abuse or wear, I think they're excellent. I intend to line the walls of the workshop with them, and thus gain the strength in the walls to hang french cleat etc. Can't go past them price wise for this type of use!
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