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    Quote Originally Posted by fletty View Post
    I will now probably have to mill some more timber for the rails to support the table top
    OK, so now we know it IS a table. The question is my mind is how the rounded over (roundovered?) laminated ends will marry with the radiused outer edge of the top.

    I'm rapt in the color and figure of the timber. What a fitting end for the tree to be preserved in such a beautiful piece of furniture. Can't wait to see the final piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glider View Post

    OK, so now we know it IS a table. The question is my mind is how the rounded over (roundovered?) laminated ends will marry with the radiused outer edge of the top.

    mick
    But wait, there’s more..........
    It will be a table that is sized to also be a desk ...... and 4 chairs. The concept is to be a table big enough to seat 4 in a common room or a desk in a smaller office with a single chair. The table top is radiussed in plan view to sit 10mm inside the gate like the photos above and flush with the top of the gates. The 2 rails will make the table top appear to float between the gates and be barely visible through the 10mm gap. The chairs will use the same design concept ...... but you’ll have to wait for that?
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    Sorry, I missed that pic.

    Have you considered dropping the level of the top a smidgeon so that the tops of the gates sit above it? I recognise the need for enough leg room underneath. Just a thought...

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    Sorry, I missed that pic.

    Have you considered dropping the level of the top a smidgeon so that the tops of the gates sit above it? I recognise the need for enough leg room underneath. Just a thought...

    mick

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    There had to come a time when the collective genius of your readership twigged to wot it was.

    I'm waiting (patiently) to see some more of the joinery that will tie this elegant yet robust structure together. The columns will obviously support a couple of dancing elephants (which may or may not have been in your design brief), but wot if one of those pachyderms leans sideways....

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanW View Post
    There had to come a time when the collective genius of your readership twigged to wot it was.

    I'm waiting (patiently) to see some more of the joinery that will tie this elegant yet robust structure together. The columns will obviously support a couple of dancing elephants (which may or may not have been in your design brief), but wot if one of those pachyderms leans sideways....

    Cheers,
    Hmmmm, I hadn’t considered a SIDE-LEANING dancing pachyderm! I had only calculated for 2 perfectly vertical jiving jumbos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glider View Post
    Sorry, I missed that pic.

    Have you considered dropping the level of the top a smidgeon so that the tops of the gates sit above it? I recognise the need for enough leg room underneath. Just a thought...

    mick

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    Sorry, I missed that pic.

    Have you considered dropping the level of the top a smidgeon so that the tops of the gates sit above it? I recognise the need for enough leg room underneath. Just a thought...

    mick
    In the traditional way of the one-off-woodworker, I’ll start off making it flush, IF it ends up lower than the top of the buttresses then that’s also “what I wanted” ........
    IF however, it ends up above the buttress, then I expect the usual list of subjects to meet me on the shed verandah for commiseration shiraz?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fletty View Post
    then I expect the usual list of subjects to meet me on the shed verandah for commiseration shiraz?
    I'm in
    Those were the droids I was looking for.
    https://autoblastgates.com.au

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    Quote Originally Posted by fletty View Post
    IF however, it ends up above the buttress, then I expect the usual list of subjects to meet me on the shed verandah for commiseration shiraz?
    Here's hoping for....

    I'm in too.
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    a rock is an obsolete tool ......... until you don’t have a hammer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fletty View Post
    In the traditional way of the one-off-woodworker, I’ll start off making it flush, IF it ends up lower than the top of the buttresses then that’s also “what I wanted” ........
    IF however, it ends up above the buttress, then I expect the usual list of subjects to meet me on the shed verandah for commiseration shiraz?
    FE46D3F7-4F71-4A16-8466-A76B8D7D5A24.jpg

    Yep, EXACTLY what I wanted, 1mm below.....
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    I'm still coming for the Shiraz
    Those were the droids I was looking for.
    https://autoblastgates.com.au

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    Fletty,
    That looks fantastic. Well done. I'm looking forward to seeing it finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCArcher View Post
    I'm still coming for the Shiraz
    There might even be a chair to sit on!
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    As there is to be no lower rail, there will be the possibility of a high racking load on the table apron to gate end joint so I’ve been experimenting with joints and joint strength.
    Each joint will be 3 ‘dowels’ arranged vertically and a single pocket hole screw only to hold the joint together while ‘the glue dries’.
    The top and bottom ‘dowels’ will be 8mm diameter stainless steel threaded rods embedded deep into both the apron and gate-end whereas the middle will be a standard 8mm timber dowel to accurately locate the joint also while the ‘glue is drying’. This is my ultimately non-destructive test of the threaded rod and epoxy joint....

    DA11476B-3AB5-404F-8D34-4B6137DD901A.jpg 4F87D6E8-DDDD-4392-B06B-2CD409C4EB26.jpg

    All good, decision made!
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    Fletty, I hope you didn't damage your hand holding the threaded rod when you were whacking that block?

    Have you considered using a narrow chisel to enlarge the diameter of the dowel holes at a few points below the surface? This would provide additional mechanical strength rather than relying completely on the shearing resistance of the metal/glue/wood interface? Belt and braces.

    mick

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