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    FYI, I had a talk with my son - he's a grunt at the local IGA.

    To the facts and rumour control! ....

    -- There is no shortage of anything. It is all just logistics.
    -- They've put up a sign at the TP, paper towels, etc, that to enquire at the counter and you can get a pack.
    -- There is more than enough for everybody*


    For the last three days, they've been unpacking 13 pallets of stuff each day. Things are literally being taken off the shelf as they're put up. The store has had more turnover in three days than the prior 4 weeks. It is not a small or slow store!

    On meat, there is plenty. Unfortunately everyone seems to be grabbing enough for the End Of Days. They sold two weeks worth of meat in a single day. They were rescued by a local butcher who had his grunts slaving on a huge delivery. Its going out today, so it will be interesting what happens.

    An offer**, to those who are truly rock-hard-place.... if I can organise anything for you, I can do so. I can box it and send it to you, via my excellent low cost couriers, at cost and no markup. Just pop me a message. I can't be a shopping service, but I can get those stuck in their caves a bit of help.


    EDIT 11am Friday- I messaged the IGA and they said this offer is ABSOLUTELY FINE. All good to go. Just let me know and I'll do what I can.




    * Reminds me of something that was told to me by somebody, a long time ago, who was obscenely rich... "There is more than enough for everyone, but not enough for some."
    ** Today is Friday 20th March. IM, email or Telegram is fine. I'll do what I can, but I can't offer ANY guarantees.
    !!! Of course, this is contingent on the forum being OK with it too......



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    Yes he called it the Chinese virus earlier but he started calling it the Chinese flu recently in response to a Chinese blaming US soldiers, according to reports last week.

    i wouldn’t be surprised if it was manufactured by China. Did you read/hear the talk by Bronwyn Bishop on the virus? Probably went a tiny bit too far

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    The statistics depend on accurate reporting. Inaccurate reporting may result from lack of resources, overwhelming cases, mistakes, deliberate mis-reporting and "political intervention." With that last one I am sceptical that the Chinese have no more reported deaths for example. I suspect the American situation is much worse than they are letting on, because being in denial, thanks a bundle Don, there are very ill-prepared.

    It is indeed the elderly and the "infirm' who are most at risk: Probably it is not a cause for complacency.

    Interesting that while in Australia we have some food shortages and also the infamous toilet rolls shortage to the extent we are limiting purchases to one packet, in America in addition to these items they are starting to limit the issue of ammunition to one or two boxes. Gun sales are also experiencing a rapid rise. The good news there is that they are holding prices down to pre covid-19 prices.

    Gun sales rise as coronavirus fears trigger personal safety concerns

    Perhaps they should consider diverting a little of that money to test kits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lappa View Post
    Yes he called it the Chinese virus earlier but he started calling it the Chinese flu recently
    That's only because he's such a dolt that he can't get it, or anything else, right twice in a row.
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    To extend on what many have felt to be true - here are some facts about who are slain by this beast --> Bloomberg -99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says


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    "The new study could provide insight into why Italy's death rate, at about 8% of total infected people, is higher than in other countries. The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country's coronavirus fatalities, finding that just three victims, or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions. More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease."

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    It is just SO easy to see how the USA could descend into anarchy. Every man redneck for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenceFurniture View Post
    Indeed. The stimulus isn't designed to benefit the recipient - it's to benefit the businesses that they patronise, which helps keep their employees working......
    Nailed it.

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    There is a very good reason why $750 won't be going out until March 31st........
    Plus it actually takes time to reprogram Centrelink's computers to make such a one-off payment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tccp123 View Post
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    Don't be ridiculous. Bob's too smart.

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    Well here is Trump's racism on display. This is from his press conference Thursday 19th March. Firstly, note the size of the font so that Dummy Donny can (at least try to) read it properly. He has crossed out "corona" and hand written "China" before virus. A premeditated, deliberate and continuing slur from the World Fwit.

    Just what we need right now from the leader of the free world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FenceFurniture View Post
    Well here is Trump's racism on display. This is from his press conference Thursday 19th March. Firstly, note the size of the font so that Dummy Donny can (at least try to) read it properly. He has crossed out "corona" and hand written "China" before virus. A premeditated, deliberate and continuing slur from the World Fwit.

    Just what we need right now from the leader of the free world.

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    Well, that's it then.

    Only one option available to him.

    Hari Kari.

    Just a shame it will have to be done in private as the mass gathering inevitably generated by such a spectacle in public would undoubtedly contravene the emergency restrictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FenceFurniture View Post
    As has been mentioned before, comparing, and even trying to calculate death rates is an extremely imprecise science. The number of deaths can certainly be ascertained. The number of infections is a completely rubbery set of figures with way too many holes in it for accuracy - .......
    It is probably even more complicated than that, FF.

    At the start Wuhan was completely unprepared and their health services were completely overwhelmed. If someone died before they were tested for COVID-19 then they were not counted as a sufferer or a victim. Just another death.

    Even now, assuming testing kits are readily available, there are issues with the figures, even in first world countries with good medical facilities. The test kits have an accuracy of between 95 - 98%. This means:
    • From 2 to 5% of tests give false negatives, and
    • From 2 to 5% of tests give false positives.

    Most medical testing has some inaccuracy, the profession is used to adjusting for it, and the outcome is usually OK for the patient. [eg A false negative, the patient does not improve, so gets retested - often after a pile of other tests looking for alternative problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Hari Kari.
    They could auction off the job of being his "second" and I reckon Mike Bloomberg would be willing to pay about $50,000,000,000 for it. That could go back into the coffers to help cover costs.

    (For those who don't know the "second" stands behind the Samurai committing seppuku, ready to whip off his head if he begins to cry out in pain. This saves the dignity of the Samurai from appearing weak to pain.)

    Reckon Bloomberg wouldn't take the final swipe either. Just leave him to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodPixel View Post
    To extend on what many have felt to be true - here are some facts about who are slain by this beast --> Bloomberg -99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says
    .......

    Has anyone been able to find the Italian source of the Report referred to?

    My reason for asking is that Bloomberg is politically to the right of Ghengis Khan and there is always the risk of subconscious editing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraemeCook View Post
    Even now, assuming testing kits are readily available, there are issues with the figures, even in first world countries with good medical facilities. The test kits have an accuracy of between 95 - 98%. This means:
    • From 2 to 5% of tests give false negatives, and
    • From 2 to 5% of tests give false positives.

    Most medical testing has some inaccuracy, the profession is used to adjusting for it, and the outcome is usually OK for the patient. [eg A false negative, the patient does not improve, so gets retested - often after a pile of other tests looking for alternative problems.
    When we lived in the US SWMBO developed strep throat. Now it did not take a rocket scientist to work out it was there, bright red pustules covering the back of her throat. I took her to the doc and they did a test and it came back negative and she was prescribed analgesics. The next day she was worse, so back to the doc, again a test and again negative. We could have gone to another doctor but that would have cost and arm and a leg because our (very expensive) medical insurance restricted up to specific providers. I was waiting in the car with our son and when she came out crying I lost it and stormed in and used a few colourful aussie terms requesting a retest. The receptionist called security and I was escorted off the premises. Two minutes later the receptionist came out to the car park and said she had organised a 3rd test. This time it worked, antibiotics prescribed and it went away.

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    Was it really intentionally racist or little Donald having a childish moment ( or in his mind a normal moment)?. After all it did come from China and whilst this one didn’t come from Spain, it was still labelled the Spanish Flu and i don’t believe one would call that racist.
    I have no love for DT believe me. My sister lives in the States and called DTs’s action on the virus a clusterf$&k.

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