Thread: CoronaVirus ==> Empty Shelves

Some people seem to have a germ phobia, shopping trolleys are no different to handrails , door handles, money, paperwork, shaking hands, lift buttons, public transport etc etc.
It is just part of life

Originally Posted by Tccp123

Or if you're unlucky enough to live in Adelaide where there is apparently a much higher chance (than the 1:10,000 that I've been quoting) that you'll have some sort of interaction with someone with IT.

Not just Adelaide, SA 'apparently' has a higher number of cases because it has consistently tested a higher percentage of its population than the other states.

Broader testing detects more cases and gives a more accurate measure of the infection rate. As a result, it should not be a surprise that SA was the first to get zero new cases on one day recently. But, of course, there is no guarantee that SA won't still have cluster like NW Tassie or another Adelaide airport emerge in the next week.

In the spirit of a bit of interstate banter: Having lived and worked in both Brisbane and Adelaide (also Sydney) I know where I would prefer to be tonight if I had to be in hospital with Covid-19.

Qld - 21 hospitalised, 11 of those in ICU, 9 of those on ventilators.

SA - 10 hospitalised, 1 of those in ICU, none of those on ventilators.

But, please keep up your bagging of Adelaide. Make it as unappealing as possible to those Covidiots that seem to keep showing up in the other states...

Originally Posted by Beardy

Some people seem to have a germ phobia, shopping trolleys are no different to handrails , door handles, money, paperwork, shaking hands, lift buttons, public transport etc etc.

In winter I am certainly aware and cautious. As a result, the last cold I had was about 4 years ago I think, and that was despite living with someone that got at least one cold per year, presumably from students or the 2 hour train ride incubator twice a day.

Shopping trolleys get handled for considerably longer periods than the other things you've described there, but yes, they all have the potential, particularly shaking hands. In the times that I have had a cold I refuse to shake hands with people (with explanation of course).

Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

In winter I am certainly aware and cautious. As a result, the last cold I had was about 4 years ago I think, and that was despite living with someone that got at least one cold per year, presumably from students or the 2 hour train ride incubator twice a day.

Shopping trolleys get handled for considerably longer periods than the other things you've described there, but yes, they all have the potential, particularly shaking hands. In the times that I have had a cold I refuse to shake hands with people (with explanation of course).

You sound like a bunch of pussies!

Originally Posted by Beardy

Some people seem to have a germ phobia, shopping trolleys are no different to handrails , door handles, money, paperwork, shaking hands, lift buttons, public transport etc etc.
It is just part of life

Yes it is part of life. Have not lived in Sydney for a long time but, "oh Boy", I did use to think about the hand rails on trains whenever I caught one. Germ phobia or not some things are not meant to be licked.

Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

This pandemic will no doubt cause many permanent changes.

Lets hope that the change in the atmosphere of the Woodwork Forums is not permanent. I have never seen such a situation where a number ofpeople are so determined to ensure that their own opinions prevail at the expense of all others. Not everyone here is so afflicted but there are enough of them to make this place very unpleasant.

Originally Posted by artful bodger

I doubt 5% of blokes would wash their hands after having a leak. You are only touching a bit of yourself. Who washes hands after scratching ones back?.

It's much more to do with how much bacteria has accumulated in areas that are prone to it, probably due to sweating I guess. Armpits, feet, crotch. Someone with smelly feet handles his feet - don't think I want to shake his hand either. Pretty basic hygiene. I think your estimate of 5% is probably quite low, but yes, there are plenty of males that think it's quite ok not to wash their hands after a leak. I'd be pretty sure that a survey of women would reveal that if they knew the truth about male hand washing frequency after toilet use, they'd be somewhat *taken aback*.

So what is wrong with you if your feet smell and your nose runs?








You are upside-down.

Regards

Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

It's much more to do with how much bacteria has accumulated in areas that are prone to it, probably due to sweating I guess. Armpits, feet, crotch. Someone with smelly feet handles his feet - don't think I want to shake his hand either. Pretty basic hygiene. I think your estimate of 5% is probably quite low, but yes, there are plenty of males that think it's quite ok not to wash their hands after a leak. I'd be pretty sure that a survey of women would reveal that if they knew the truth about male hand washing frequency after toilet use, they'd be somewhat *taken aback*.

I have never found women to be any better than blokes when it comes to being "really clean". Maybe I move in the wrong circles.

Whatever anyone thinks of the situation here, it could be a whole lot worse. In the last 4 weeks, the equivalent of 85% of Australia's total population - 22 million people - filed for unemployment in the USA.

There's plenty of them out there

As a boy in the 50s I recall scouring the neighbourhood on "junk days" and finding all sorts of WW2 paraphernalia. Shell casings, and gas masks were pretty common although bayonets were the most highly prized find.

I'd love to wear a gas mask in the local supermarket. It mightn't be very effective but the reaction of people would be priceless, especially with its accompanying havasack.

mick

Originally Posted by artful bodger

I have never found women to be any better than blokes when it comes to being "really clean". Maybe I move in the wrong circles.

According to my mum the person with the cleanest hands and nails in her family was her blacksmith father. Unfortunately I never met him but according to mum after work he would spend many minutes vigorously scrubbing his hands and nails with soap and water, and finish off by cutting a lemon in half and crushing it skin and all AND vigorously rub it all over his hands. The citric acid and lemon oil combo not only removed every trace of charcoal/rust and metal filings, but left his hands soft. All 8 of my uncles and aunts have remarked on how clean and soft his hands were. I've used the lemon wash a few times when I had spare lemons after handling cast iron and it does indeed work amazingly well at getting out the black stuff then ends up in finger/hand skin cracks.

In a workplace study a few years back metal workers were found to have some of the lowest hand bacterial counts of any profession because theY tended to wasH their hands far more often than anyone else. I wonder if the use of tight fitting gloves has made things worse rather than better. Amongst the worst for bacterial hand counts was anyone who used keyboards, especially if not always their own. Office door handles and cistern buttons of the toilets used by these workers were also higher in bacterial counts.

Today's spreadsheet attached.

Points to note:

• USA cumulative cases dropped by 3.6%, which is of course impossible. They must have reviewed the numbers....or summink
• The above means that the USA death rate has suddenly jumped from 3.5% to nearly 5%, but they did have a 3 day increase in deaths of 36%
• Russia, Singapore and Belarus were the worst 3 day % increases in cases.
• 21 countries are close to or above 5% death rates, 8 are above 10% (and 7 of them are EU)
• Discounting China and Sth Korea, Australia is the lowest 3 day cases gain %
• Europe is approaching a million cases (950k), and has 91k deaths