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18th September 2020, 07:01 PM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Stanley Bailey No7
This followed me home today.
Not sure if it is a Frankenstein.
Handle, and blade holder not original???
What about the frog???
Can anyone tell from the photos?
Date???
Any info appreciated.
Thanks
Lyle
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18th September 2020, 07:39 PM #2
English made 7, made sometime between WW2 and 1972. Can’t really pinpoint it better than that without seeing the yoke, adjuster and the tolerances between the base and the frog but I’ll take a stab at late 50’s judging by the colour of the front knob. The rear handle looks like a replacement but could also have been someone’s attempt at restoration.
The lever cap is wrong; that’s been stolen from a 4 or a 5. It should be wider. The blade is a goody; it’s an Australian made Stanley with a HSS tip. Correctly sharpened it’ll breeze through Aussie hardwoods.
What you have there is the makings of a good user. Get hold of a correct lever cap and make your own rear handle and you’re halfway there; flattening the sole, sharpening the blade and fettling the cap iron is the other half. which one you pick first is up to you!
Keep an eye out for a junk 4-1/2 with a good handle; they are relatively easily found and will supply all the bits you need to get the 7 running smooth.Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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18th September 2020, 08:10 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks for that.
I'll scrub it clean and get some more photos.
I'll start looking for the bits you suggested.
Lyle
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19th September 2020, 08:42 AM #4GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks again Chief.
A couple of more photos after clean up.
I see what you mean re the lever cap, it is too narrow.
The frog I think is ok because there is minimal gap between it and the body.
Photo of yoke assy.
Lyle
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19th September 2020, 12:41 PM #5
Hi Lyle; regarding the frog I was looking to see how close the machining is on the gap in the middle where it straddles the central rib on the sole. All the prewar US Stanleys and the early English ones were closely machined so the frog maintained lateral alignment when adjusting them back and forth. When the frog receiver changed to a "Y" shape they stopped machining those parts and just made the gaps in the castings massive instead. This is why setting up later Stanleys has pitfalls for the uninitiated as they don't realise the frogs can be quite badly skewed across the mouth.
Now that you've cleaned out the dust that was packed under the frog can I get a photo of the bottom of the frog and the section of the sole where it sits?Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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19th September 2020, 02:12 PM #6GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks for your help Chief.
I hope these photos are what you need.
Lyle.
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19th September 2020, 03:07 PM #7
Looks like the center rib has the machining on either side of it so I'm going to stick with my previous guess of 1950's era. Dating English Stanley's is very hit & miss as basically they picked a late design and just spent less and less on quality control as the years went by.
You've picked up the makings of a good user plane; I hope you enjoy it!Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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Thanks. I am going minimal work on this. A good clean up, virtually no rust. Blade sharpen. Look for a correct lever cap. Cleaned up the woodwork and shellaced it, then buffed up. The handle is missing the "lambs tongue", but I'm not worried about that.
Then good to go.
No to build up some muscles to push it around...
Lyle
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