Table Design - will it work?

Hi Guys,

Another question if I may.

I'm hoping to build a 12 seat square table. Impractical, yes, but at the customers insistence.

It'll be 2mx2m and the design I have in mind is simple. Square legs, aprons flush to the legs and top flush to the edges of the aprons/legs (no overhang) with a shadowline under the top. The top will be either 12mm Corian or Carrara marble, so if marble it'll be quite heavy at that size.

My question is to do with the supporting understructure, what's the best solution here given the size and weight? Ideally not a 5th leg...

Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

Cam

How deep are the aprons? I would be looking at a steel perimeter frame with diagonals seeing the top is unlikely to change in dimension. Sikaflex will fix the steel to the top and introduce more strength due to the bond area.

+1 for steel supports

Also, don't have rails flush with legs if possible. Over time the joins will develop small cracks and they show up like dogs b@lls on flush joins. You only need a few mm setback to get around it.

you also know that a 2m x 2m table will only seat 10

if you try for 3 on each side, the diners on each corner are sharing a single space
the square will need to be bigger, about 2.8 x 2.8, or the table rectangular, seating 4 on the sides and 2 on each end

This maybe a stupid question, I am well known for it. Also it may be way too late in the process to have any effect.

a 2m long table will seat three either side but the end section usually seats one as the side eaters encroach on the available width. Ergo a 2m x 2m table will fit 3 on opposing sides but the alternate sides would fit only 2 people I.e. total 10 seats.

i could be way wrong and I eat with my elbows at ear height so I may take more table space than others.:U

anyhow looking forward to the WIP and pics

cheers

That will be a big table. I hope someone has thought through the logistics of weight, transport and installation at the customers premises. Could be a touch embarrassing to find it won't fit through a doorway.

Anyway, good luck with the build, and I look forward to a photo or three as the job progresses.

Alan...

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Originally Posted by Wrongwayfirst

This maybe a stupid question, I am well known for it. Also it may be way too late in the process to have any effect.

a 2m long table will seat three either side but the end section usually seats one as the side eaters encroach on the available width. Ergo a 2m x 2m table will fit 3 on opposing sides but the alternate sides would fit only 2 people I.e. total 10 seats.

i could be way wrong and I eat with my elbows at ear height so I may take more table space than others.:U

anyhow looking forward to the WIP and pics

cheers

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not a stupid question

this is how I see a 2m x 2m table "working" with 10 diners
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also getting such a monster into the intended space could be a challenge

and the space itself, you need about 1.5m to 2m on all sides of the table so diners can move to their seats and the people serving the food can move around -- which implies a 6m x 6 room -- or bigger if there's sideboards, or wall cabinets

Interestingly they have some tables about that size and style in Westfield's Food Court at Chatswood (NSW). I've never seen more than a few people using them, most people don't like sitting too close to strangers.

Thanks as always for the replies.

I wondered about the 12 seats. To be honest I googled some "12 seat square tables" and found that many were ~2mx2m.

The logistics are a big concern given that there is a planned move 6 months after the initial delivery - but as long as it will fit through the doors it's not impossible.

Steel frame - good idea. How might that work? I have a few ideas, but keen to hear from anyone who's done it before.

Cheers,

Cam.

Go overboard. Use a few glulam beams (from building suppliers) for the rails and legs. They can look very nice.

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Originally Posted by Cam.H

Thanks as always for the replies.

I wondered about the 12 seats. To be honest I googled some "12 seat square tables" and found that many were ~2mx2m.

The logistics are a big concern given that there is a planned move 6 months after the initial delivery - but as long as it will fit through the doors it's not impossible.

Steel frame - good idea. How might that work? I have a few ideas, but keen to hear from anyone who's done it before.

Cheers,

Cam.

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Hi Cam

Apart from the fact that the top for a 2m x 2m table wouldn't fit through the doors of my house in one piece, and it would be almost impossibly heavy to move, I suggest moving the frame or aprons in from the edges. If the top overhangs it's frame by 400mm then the centre has more support than it would otherwise. 400mm is the sort of overhang occasionally seen in kitchens with stone or Corian bench tops

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Originally Posted by Chris Parks

How deep are the aprons? I would be looking at a steel perimeter frame with diagonals seeing the top is unlikely to change in dimension. Sikaflex will fix the steel to the top and introduce more strength due to the bond area.

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Thanks Chris,

How would you envisage the steel support working/ connecting to timber legs etc.

Cam