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Hi All,
Well with this Bar thing, I can see all of you in the dark of night.
Unbelievable the amount of light they provide.
The question is, I'm told, is that they are Illegal, so is this true.
The Car I was in had really bad lights, & these things just Blew Me Away, but at $399, they are out of my price range.
I think 80W, was the figure I was told, but not quite sure on that.
They are not illegal provided the comply with ADR. Your state may have overriding legislation however.Quote:
Originally Posted by issatree
IIRC, they have to be able to be isolated with a switch in the cabin, and they must only come on when your high beams are on. OF course, they have to be mounted within the ADR specs as well, ie not interrupting the drivers view etc.
EDIT, Just looked up the relevant ADR (ADR13/00), I guess one could argue that you have to have pairs fitted. Also note the maximum number is 4. Also, its worth noting that driving lights do not need to comply with ADR in terms of design. For example, ADR states that OEM headlights have to be filament bulbs or gas discharge lamps, however this does not apply to driving lights.
7.3.‘DRIVING LAMPS’
7.3.1.Presence:
Optional on motor vehicles. Prohibited on trailers.
7.3.2.Number:
7.3.2.1.Two or four.
7.3.2.2.To be used in conjunction with headlamps.
7.3.3.Arrangement:
No individual specifications
7.3.4.Position:
7.3.4.1.In width no individual specifications.
7.3.4.2.In no individual specifications.
7.3.4.3.In length: at the front of the vehicle and fitted in such a way that the light emitted does not cause discomfort to the driver either directly or indirectly through the rear-view mirrors and/or other reflecting surfaces of the vehicle.
7.3.5.Geometric visibility:
No individual specifications.
7.3.6.Orientation:
Towards the front.
7.3.7.Electrical connections:
The driving lamps must be able to be lighted only when the main-beam headlamps switch is in the “lamps on” position.
7.3.8.Tell tale:
No requirement.
7.3.9.Others:
The aggregate maximum intensity of the main-beam headlamps as specified in paragraph 6.1.9.1 of Appendix A can be exceeded with the fitment and illumination of driving lamps. Driving lamps do not have to comply with ADR 46/….
They work well especially for 4x4 driving as they give a wide bright area near the car. Not so good for really long distance lighting but how far do you want to see :U.
I have them for my lathe too, brilliant, like turning in bright sunlight :2tsup:
Place where I work have ditched the normal lights on their Excavators and replaced them with LED Strip Bars, am not talking little back yard diggers here, am talking about big buggers mine excavators. Very bright, lights up the area where you need to back into with a dump truck. Have seen them on 4X4 getting about the place, flood light only, never seen one that can shoot a pencil beam like an adjustable LightForce.
DD
Yes I do wonder about their usefulness as driving lights. I have a pair of Hella's (1 spot, 1 spread beam) that covers close in and to the side, and right down the road. I can't see that adding an LED bar would add anything ... however it may replace the spread beam, but not the spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingo Dog
I can assure you they work on the road. I fitted some Clearwater Kristas to my motorcycle for night riding and its chalk and cheese. The ones on the bike are clearly not as good as my firelights on the ute, but for the size and power draw they do a pretty fine job at it.
Here is a pic, they are the top set of lights. The bottom are factory fog lights, dont be fooled into thinking they are brighter than the LED's. The LED's really light up the road ahead. Not sure how I ever lived without them.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-i...303_161127.jpg
Just make sure you don't forget where your dip switch is like a lot of people seem to these days. I hate the things when they're coming the other way and the idiot behind the wheel forgets to dip his lights.
... or to turn off their fog lights when there is no fog/rain. I wish the cops would actively police their (improper) use, because they often appear as bright as hi-beams when they are coming towards you.Quote:
Originally Posted by silentC
Got a 24 set (72w) on the 4 wheel. Excellent for rural roads of a night.
I need to get some of those for my bike.
Not light bars, but I fitted these Pair Cree LED Driving Work Spot Light 160W OFF Road 4WD Round VS 96W 185W 225W | eBay to the Hilux last week and was quite surprised at how bright they were. They were cheap so thought I would give them a go.
They replaced a set of Naarva 175 Combi driving lights. They dont have the distance of the traditional driving light but are very acceptable to say the least.
The only problem I find is that there is a huge difference going from high beam back to low beam, but this is only because the low beam on the Hilux is pretty poor (even with +120 globes).
Cant comment on light bars, but these are very solidly made (cast alloy body, heavy pressed steel brackets) but time will tell how durable they are over the long term.
Steven.
The cops pulled over and gave my neighbour a ticket for having a light bar fitted to his bull bar. A few weeks back he was complaining to me over the fence about it. He pointed out to the cop numerous other drivers going past with the same thing and stating it was commercially fitted. Can't remember what the actual offence was meant to be or if he even got a decent answer from he cop.
So may be worth asking around if your planning to get them, may just have been the placement and not the actual light guess .
I think new rules came in a few months ago. It will be in the net somewhere, but basically not allowed to have lights in the top of a bullbar or on the roof.Quote:
Originally Posted by DSEL74
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safe...driving-lights
I would assume his bar was deemed to obstruct his view of the road.