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After slicing part of my hand down to my wrist (not deep thankfully) due to a eclipse copy honing guide, I've decided I should get something a bit better. Completely devastated I missed the Richard Kell ones that Ruddy just sold so putting a call out there in case anyone has something decent they are willing to part with. looking to do both chisels and plane blades
Let me know what you have and what compensation you would like
I don’t have one for sale but I’d be very interested in knowing how the incident happened; I often demonstrate sharpening techniques and equipment and have both genuine Eclipse and Chinese guides that I use for these. This sort of safety information/accident history is always useful.
If you want to go down the fancy-pants guide route I recommend keeping an eye out for the Veritas MkII and all the associated add-ons that go with it. I bought mine new years ago, then added the cambered roller. I picked up another guide cheaply on Ebay and then last year purchased the skew guide and the narrow blade holder from the Forum Marketplace. I now have three set ups ready to go at a moments notice; one normal, one cambered and one with the narrow holder. Unfortunately buying that lot in one hit would be somewhat expensive...
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Originally Posted by Chief Tiff
1. Hold the guide in your left hand between your thumb and index finger with the chisel mounted so the blade points to the sky and the handle to your feet
2. Realise that the bevel on the sides of the chisel is tapered and it isnt mounted on the guide properly
3. Attempt to twist the chisel a bit so it goes into place
4. In a sudden and forceful motion, following a clear lapse of judgement pull the chisel down and away from you, while simultaneously bulling the guide to your left shoulder
5. Choose a profanity, yell it out, and realise you have lust sliced open 1 inch in from where your thumb connects down yo just below where your hand connects
Ah yes; thanks for the blow-by-blow account!
Ok; any chisel which tapers along it’s length is actually going to be held better using a guide which clamps onto the sides... like the Chinese Eclipse style. What you can do to improve it is file down the dovetail cut outs so you have two flat faces clamping the chisel. The standard Veritas also doesn’t grip tapered chisels very well but the narrow blade fixture works brilliantly and can take chisels up to about an inch, maybe more. I can pull mine out tomorrow if you want a definitive max size.
Another useful guide is the Record 161; although it clamps from the top the screw uses the same fitting as a G-clamp and will accommodate the taper. Downsides are this tool is twice as fiddly to set up as you have to set it at 90 degrees as well as setting the blade projection; and the roller is only a 1/2” ball bearing so it’s practically impossible not to end up with some degree of camber on your blade. On the plus side it is unbeatable for use on curved blades.
I have a Veritas honing guide, almost brand new, opened the packet an tried it, then put put it away, I always use my tormek to sharpen any chisels.
Can post photos if you want.
The original or a mk2? Would be great if you could send a photo of it, either here or a direct messageQuote:
Originally Posted by wm460
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I the original, kept in the packet.
running late for work take better pic later if you want.
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I've been using a modified cheap Eclipse knock-off - there's a very good Fine Woodworking piece on modifying them to get them to perform by Bob Van Dyke which helps set the blade up.
But I recently bought the Lie-Nielsen version. It's like driving a Rolls after a quad bike. Takes a couple of seconds to set the tool into the guide which is one of things I find annoying about the Veritas guide.
The Lie-Nielsen is simple, one piece and just beautifully engineered.
But don't buy the Stanley honing guide - grabbed one for a carpentry apprentice from Hunnings and it's unusable. Total piece of junk as its wheels have flats and high spots so it can't roll smoothly. He's now got the Eclipse knock-off & is the talk of the building site.