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9th June 2023, 11:19 PM
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My shop is about 9' wide. The ducts are on one...
My shop is about 9' wide. The ducts are on one side and the bandsaw is on the other side. This is with the duct attached to the bandsaw.
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9th June 2023, 01:55 PM
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If you are blowing the air outside, then choose a...
If you are blowing the air outside, then choose a filter that will capture the dust, but give you as much air flow as possible, like 30 micron bags. There's no reason to filter the air you are...
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24th May 2023, 08:15 PM
Thread: Summary for North Americans
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Thank you, Chris. Venting a short cyclone outside...
Thank you, Chris. Venting a short cyclone outside is not something I had considered.
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24th May 2023, 01:51 PM
Thread: Summary for North Americans
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Summary for North Americans
I believe that you guys have a lot of wisdom and I have learned a lot about dust collection from you. However, when you are in the US and Google about dust collection, this forum is rarely returned...
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12th May 2023, 11:33 PM
Thread: Using an ambient air filter
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The fan is a FanTech FG8...
The fan is a FanTech FG8. There is fan curve information on that website. At zero static pressure, it is rated for 461 CFM.
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1st May 2023, 10:36 PM
Thread: Using an ambient air filter
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Thanks. It draws air from outside the filter and...
Thanks. It draws air from outside the filter and blows it out the top. Bill Pentz said he tried both methods and this way is more effective. The standard for these industrial filters is dirty air...
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1st May 2023, 01:22 PM
Thread: Using an ambient air filter
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I built an air cleaner and seems to work great. ...
I built an air cleaner and seems to work great.
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* The fan is a high quality 8" centrifugal duct fan from a US company called FanTech.
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1st May 2023, 01:08 PM
Thread: ClearVue CV1700 install
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My last post I said I needed advice and then...
My last post I said I needed advice and then posted it in the middle of the night in Australia and didn't even ask a question. Oh well.
Today I took out muffler 2.0 and put in muffler 3.0.
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1st May 2023, 12:39 AM
Thread: ClearVue CV1700 install
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Muffler advice needed
I need some advice.
As you can read previously in this thread, I originally had a muffler made from R8, 10" flexible HVAC duct that looked like this:
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23rd April 2023, 06:43 AM
Thread: shifting mutta mutta mutta
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I know a guy who built a Pentz cyclone and vents...
I know a guy who built a Pentz cyclone and vents it out a window. The partially open window has a board with an exhaust hole. The exhaust from the cyclone goes to large diameter HVAC flex and then...
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30th March 2023, 01:19 PM
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I have an unconventional recommendation: Start...
I have an unconventional recommendation: Start with measuring.
The hard part about collecting invisible dust is that it is invisible. I bought little meter from Aliexpress that has a Plantower... -
11th March 2023, 01:31 PM
Thread: ClearVue CV1700 install
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Rags and cyclones
I read warnings on here about cyclones sucking up rags, which get stuck in the impeller and then you have to disassemble the cyclone to get the rag out.
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1st March 2023, 02:35 PM
Thread: Using an ambient air filter
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Using an ambient air filter
I'm thinking about getting or making an ambient air filter for my shop. These have different names: room air filter, air cleaner, air filtration system, air purifier
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27th January 2023, 02:52 PM
Thread: ClearVue CV1700 install
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Tonight I was cleaning off my workbench using a...
Tonight I was cleaning off my workbench using a 4" flex hose. The remote that starts and stops the cyclone got sucked up before I even knew what was happening.
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18th January 2023, 02:14 PM
Thread: ClearVue CV1700 install
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Airflow measurements
I attached a 5' length of 10" straight pipe to the exhaust to measure airflow.
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The exhaust pipe is propped up with a sawhorse to minimize back pressure from air hitting the ground.
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17th January 2023, 12:39 PM
Thread: ClearVue CV1700 install
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Sound Level Measurements
The sound control I implemented for my Clear Vue worked very well. This is a cyclone with a 6" inlet and a 16" impeller running at 60hz (single phase 240v in the US).
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11th January 2023, 03:22 AM
Thread: ClearVue CV1700 install
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I'm not sure if the fact that hasn't happened...
I'm not sure if the fact that hasn't happened means there is a leak or if this trash can is slightly stronger. Also, my empty can did not lift off the ground like I have heard some describe.
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9th January 2023, 05:50 PM
Thread: ClearVue CV1700 install
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Right now I have a very short piece of 10" duct...
Right now I have a very short piece of 10" duct just shooting straight out the back of the building horizontally. I was planning to build a wooden box around it, kind of like a wooden dryer vent.
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9th January 2023, 01:48 PM
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I got two requests for more photos. This is a...
I got two requests for more photos.
This is a better shot of the link between the dust collector shed and my shop. I sealed the hole with something that's like industrial Silly Putty.
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3rd January 2023, 02:48 PM
Thread: ClearVue CV1700 install
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I have made some progress. As a reminder, I'm...
I have made some progress. As a reminder, I'm installing a Clear Vue Cyclone in a separate building dedicated for that purpose.
I made a dust collection bin.
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21st November 2022, 06:56 AM
Thread: Why is spiral ducting not more optimized?
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That sounds right. The quick-clamp stuff...
That sounds right. The quick-clamp stuff (Nordfab and the clones) seem like the purpose-build industrial answer. That ducting is really, really expensive for a hobby shop.
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20th November 2022, 03:10 PM
Thread: Why is spiral ducting not more optimized?
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I understand. It also seems that the performance...
I understand. It also seems that the performance of the system is difficult to measure so many people don't know whether their system performs well or not.
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20th November 2022, 05:54 AM
Thread: Why is spiral ducting not more optimized?
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Why is spiral ducting not more optimized?
I don't understand why spiral ducting is not more optimized for air flow.
I know in Australia metal ducting is very expensive so nearly all the installations I have seen on this forum use PVC. In... -
26th October 2022, 12:58 PM
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Pete, horizontally the pipes line up pretty well....
Pete, horizontally the pipes line up pretty well. Vertically, if I make both pipes level, then the one on the right is 6.25" too high (center to center of the two pipes is 6.25").
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25th October 2022, 12:50 PM
Thread: ClearVue CV1700 install
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Two topics: noise and duct connection On...
Two topics: noise and duct connection
On noise, several of the posts I have read ended with something like, "I could have just used an insulated HVAC duct and that would have been much easier." ... -
20th October 2022, 12:13 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions, guys. Mark
Thanks for the suggestions, guys.
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17th October 2022, 11:32 PM
Thread: ClearVue CV1700 install
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ClearVue CV1700 install
I live in the US, but reading this forum has helped me so much. Thank you for everyone who shares their wisdom.
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9th March 2022, 01:14 PM
Thread: Cyclones - pros & cons
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Neil, thank you for the great writeup. I do feel...
Neil, thank you for the great writeup. I do feel like dust collection is "too hard" and I'm hopeful that someday there will be easier answers.
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7th March 2022, 06:56 AM
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BrettGG, if you are venting outside, don't think...
BrettGG, if you are venting outside, don't think a cyclone is required. You could use a 3HP, 2 bag collector that has a large enough impeller (13+") . In fast, that's what BobL uses.
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3rd January 2022, 08:10 AM
Thread: Hand plane shavings and dust collection
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I'm back with a report. Right now I have a 1.5...
I'm back with a report. Right now I have a 1.5 hp bag collector with a 10" impeller. As an experiment, I tried sucking up hand plane shavings.
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2nd January 2022, 06:45 AM
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This is a very interesting observation I had...
This is a very interesting observation I had never considered. Having a shorter taper also reduces the height requirement.
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25th December 2021, 03:18 AM
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On the US website, they have dimensional drawings...
On the US website, they have dimensional drawings that are slightly different than the one in the manual.
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17th October 2021, 08:39 PM
Thread: 6" dust hood for Dewalt 735 planer
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6" dust hood for Dewalt 735 planer
Today I visited a guy who replaced the dust port on his Dewalt 735 planer with a hood that connects to a 6" hose. He said it made a significant difference in chip collection. The product he used...
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3rd October 2021, 11:58 PM
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My shop is less than 3m x 6m on the inside, so I...
My shop is less than 3m x 6m on the inside, so I am significantly more constrained. Here's my suggestions:
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24th August 2021, 01:10 PM
Thread: Air purifier using a box fan
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Air purifier using a box fan
I saw in the news today that some people in the US are building DIY air purifiers for schools which look exactly like air purifiers I have seen in woodworking shops: DIY Air Filters For Classrooms?...
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14th May 2021, 01:50 PM
Thread: Dust Extraction for new shop
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FYI, I believe these are the impeller sizes for...
FYI, I believe these are the impeller sizes for some of the machines in that chart:
* Powermatic PM1900 - 14" impeller, single stage - probably radial
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9th May 2021, 08:07 AM
Thread: Dust Extraction for new shop
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Cody, I really don't have practical advice, but I...
Cody, I really don't have practical advice, but I do have some observations.
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17th April 2021, 08:54 PM
Thread: Going hand tools.
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I'm really late to this party, but here's my...
I'm really late to this party, but here's my experience. I work out of a shop that is about 10ft x 20ft (3m x 6m). I started twenty years ago by trying to teach myself hand tools. However, there...
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11th April 2021, 01:40 AM
Thread: Hand plane shavings and dust collection
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Hand plane shavings and dust collection
Right now I don't have a power jointer, so all the initial surfacing I do by hand. This produces a lot of hand plane shavings. I put those shavings in a 30 gallon paper leaf bag. Two questions:
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5th April 2021, 11:40 PM
Thread: Country CV install
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Bob, we all need a friend like you to come help...
Bob, we all need a friend like you to come help us complete our dust collection systems and provide expert advice. Seeing the details of the install, especially the exposed outdoor install was very...
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4th April 2021, 12:09 PM
Thread: Exhaust fan questions (from US)
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That all makes perfect sense. I was trying to do...
That all makes perfect sense. I was trying to do an exhaust fan as a interim step before a cyclone, but especially since I have so many windows and doors in the shop (see picture in first post on...
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4th April 2021, 04:33 AM
Thread: Exhaust fan questions (from US)
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I guess one of my questions is what is a good...
I guess one of my questions is what is a good target air exchange rate. I have seen 8" centrifugal fans marketed for hydroponics that say they move 740 CFM, which seems very unlikely. (VIVOSUN 8...
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3rd April 2021, 11:29 PM
Thread: Exhaust fan questions (from US)
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Exhaust fan questions (from US)
I want to add an exhaust fan to my workshop and I could use another set of eyes to check my work. My shop is about 10' x 20' (3m x 6m) with this configuration:
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21st March 2021, 08:11 PM
Thread: Measuring static pressure
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Yes, Bob, you guess it. I don't live in Burma or...
Yes, Bob, you guess it. I don't live in Burma or Liberia.
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21st March 2021, 01:34 PM
Thread: Measuring static pressure
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Measuring static pressure
Today I found a video with pressure measurements on a Felder AF22:
Dust Extraction in your Workshop - YouTube
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10th March 2021, 01:21 AM
Thread: ClearVue CV1800 vs Felder AF22
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A friend of mine is an expert in air handling for...
A friend of mine is an expert in air handling for cotton gins. Cotton gins use giant cyclones that exhaust outside and they are regulated by the PM2.5 emissions sent into the atmosphere. I had him...
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7th March 2021, 12:55 PM
Thread: ClearVue CV1800 vs Felder AF22
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Thanks Chris Parks, now my goal of not making...
Thanks Chris Parks, now my goal of not making dust collection my hobby turned into researching phase converters and VFDs. It sounds like extra expense and hassle to me, when I really just want an...
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7th March 2021, 07:15 AM
Thread: ClearVue CV1800 vs Felder AF22
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The AF22 listed on the US store...
The AF22 listed on the US store says it is 4.0 hp / 3.0 kW.
Yes, I have neighbors close by and it's important to me that I'm courteous.
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7th March 2021, 02:08 AM
Thread: ClearVue CV1800 vs Felder AF22
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ClearVue CV1800 vs Felder AF22
I live in central Texas, USA. I work out of a detached garage that is about 10 ft x 20 ft (3m x 6m). This has been my workshop for 20 years.
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31st October 2020, 11:59 PM
Thread: High Pressure Ducted System
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Oneida Supercell?
I have been lurking here for a while because you all share great information. Thank you!
In the US, Oneida has a relatively new dust collector called Supercell that is a high pressure system...