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    I'm not aware of anything faster. About 30...

    I'm not aware of anything faster. About 30 seconds for a chisel and maybe 1 minute for a plane iron (one has to physically do the actual work, and on about double the edge length, so it just ends up...
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    for planes, if you start off with a more refined...

    for planes, if you start off with a more refined edge, you'll get more edge life. If you can get the same geometry as a fine stone with those oxides and same finish, then the result will be the same....
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    A more rule of thumb response than what I...

    A more rule of thumb response than what I provided above, as too many options at the outset may not be great.

    * if you have success with the method and performance is good, then work it up to...
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    in terms of penetrating wood, there may be...

    in terms of penetrating wood, there may be something about a tiny rounded bevel that's more efficient (less friction, more split off of a properly sized shaving, etc) than an apex of two planes, but...
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    You can do a range of things, but one of the...

    You can do a range of things, but one of the truths about the method is that it leaves an even edge that you can't really duplicate by hand in any reasonable amount of time. Even sharpening deflects...
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    * Bench grinder, sander or whatever other powered...

    * Bench grinder, sander or whatever other powered method you want to use to grind (I like a 6" grinder, but 8 is fine, and if you love tormeks, same). I think hand grinding a 20 degree angle is less...
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    No harm, no foul. What's the last thing anyone...

    No harm, no foul. What's the last thing anyone wants to hear about, anyway. Another sharpening method, or another sharpening method with an oddball name. I'm not a huge fan, myself, if for no other...
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    Derek beat me to responding. There's no slow...

    Derek beat me to responding. There's no slow speed grinding involved - that literally has nothing to do with it.
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    I had to work fairly hard to get a black arkansas...

    I had to work fairly hard to get a black arkansas edge that clean - the first couple of edges I checked under the microscope sustained damage from finishing the edge and then stropping on leather....
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    I have the LL sharpening book, but it's been too...

    I have the LL sharpening book, but it's been too long since I've read it (I can't remember if the book was just sharpening, so pardon if it's titled something else).

    Not sure I follow the 1500...
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    let's see if this type of link works better: ...

    let's see if this type of link works better:

    https://i.imgur.com/HAMAR3Y.jpg
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    I started with a guide. When I test irons and...

    I started with a guide. When I test irons and collect data, I still use a guide (so that critics can reproduce my results - they never do, but they could). You have to get results first and then get...
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    keep the bevel at 25. set the secondary angle at...

    keep the bevel at 25. set the secondary angle at 33 and make it small. See what happens (Good things will happen). 32/33 is about the angle on a bevel down plane where small chipping stops.
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    I found the linde A buffer picture - I have no...

    I found the linde A buffer picture - I have no idea what the small nits are at the edge. I may have done a lazy job getting the edge ready before the buffer (like the fine stones, the linde doesn't...
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    And one more on sharpness of method (without...

    And one more on sharpness of method (without discussing longevity).

    I like to use an india or india and washita and then the buffer. The india is a nice stone once it's settled in (I use a fine...
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    Here's a couple of pictures. The first is my...

    Here's a couple of pictures. The first is my straight razor (this is my daily razor when I'm shaving daily - it's been less lately). I don't know how long ago it was last honed. 6 months maybe, but...
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    It's the result of objective experimentation. The...

    It's the result of objective experimentation. The method is something I came upon by accident.

    I haven't had an experienced woodworker yet object to that, though some don't like using a buffer...
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    Your choice. Perhaps you've done something...

    Your choice. Perhaps you've done something similar in isolation and shared it with nobody. Perhaps what you've done is not functionally the same as this, but there's some record of you describing it....
  19. precise known-tolerance measuring stuff is a...

    precise known-tolerance measuring stuff is a wonderful idea. Nobody likes to pay for it themselves, but especially things like squares and straight edges, it's nice to have at least one of each...
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    keep it moving side to side a little more quickly...

    keep it moving side to side a little more quickly (or constantly).

    The brown is a sign of heat, but I'd hone it and use it before determining that it got too overheated to use. Color is a...
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    (I have no other better suggestions, though -I...

    (I have no other better suggestions, though -I think iida's dump off stuff is about as good as you're going to get for a reasonable price. I ultimately went to buyee based on experience having had a...
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    That's iida - I've gotten a bunch of stuff off of...

    That's iida - I've gotten a bunch of stuff off of his listings. Everything has shown up, including an inexpensive Nakano 70mm kanna (it was OK, I had another in the past with a thin lamination that...
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    set finished - just more to the group, not any...

    set finished - just more to the group, not any different.

    Never really settled on a certain handle or way to make them, but will do them octagonal next time.

    .07" thick at the bevel (maybe...
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    push your fingers down harder on the side where...

    push your fingers down harder on the side where it's coming up a little short to even out the effect.
  25. I think they're fair - they're accurate. There is...

    I think they're fair - they're accurate. There is a handle made form some kind of duplicating machine, presumably someone finishes it (but I'd be shocked if anything but the pattern is hand turned),...
  26. Derek, I don't know how your chisels entered this...

    Derek, I don't know how your chisels entered this conversation. The comment at the beginning of this is for dovetail chisels that cost about $100 each $US. I didn't look at your review of chisels and...
  27. I'm not comparing mine to them. It's not a...

    I'm not comparing mine to them. It's not a reasonable goal to forge shape chisels and hand grind them just to have a few (let alone work through the nits of heat treating to get them to match or...
  28. I might sound like a misdirected chisel crusader,...

    I might sound like a misdirected chisel crusader, but the blue spruce chisels leave me cold. For the price, I'm not sure what you get other than a really high polish finish - otherwise, they're just...
  29. Not sure what's available there. I guess sellers...

    Not sure what's available there. I guess sellers has ruined the market for older router planes, but I've had the LV and a couple of vintage router planes, and now just have one stanley (the type with...
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    Just to confirm, you can unicorn the edge an...

    Just to confirm, you can unicorn the edge an extra buff or two and trim brass. But you wouldn't be able to do it on brass with a rough surface or try to get too quick - but you can chamber and cut,...
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    They should be decent - the profile suggests drop...

    They should be decent - the profile suggests drop forged out of rod (like current carving tools like pfeil, etc) and if the starting stock is good and the heat treatment is good, that should make a...
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    I don't mean two weeks an hour every other day, I...

    I don't mean two weeks an hour every other day, I mean two weeks of doing nothing but stitching rasps, one type. It seems to us like a matter of difficult things, but it's a matter of turning what's...
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    slow going due to time to make chisels pretty...

    slow going due to time to make chisels pretty much limited to lunch. Ground back the four made so far to .07", which is as low as I think I'll go. Two made since above were left a bit fat, closer to...
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    I remember that video. Now having a belt grinder,...

    I remember that video. Now having a belt grinder, I"m kind of confused as to why they're shaping the blanks with a wheel grinder, but I'm sure they will charge a price to recover their costs. With a...
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    It's nice to have a finish on the back of an iron...

    It's nice to have a finish on the back of an iron a little finer than 1000 grit with the "unicorn", but not essential. I use a fine india (but it's settled in because I don't scuff it).

    grind,...
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    (I'm the cranky unicorn guy, but I have had just...

    (I'm the cranky unicorn guy, but I have had just about everything - including a tormek with a gray alumina wheel, black silicon carbide, and I also had the 4000 grit japanese waterstone wheel. The...
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    The knife market is considerably larger than the...

    The knife market is considerably larger than the woodworking market, and it's filled with people who are easier to sway because woodworkers constantly make tools dull and need to resharpen them. Much...
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    (my discussions of HT are a little bit TLDR...a...

    (my discussions of HT are a little bit TLDR...a lot bit. But sooner or later, you'll want to hear from people who have experimented....there's a lot of information out there, good and bad, but some...
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    Kind of like the unicorn edge on a chisel - the...

    Kind of like the unicorn edge on a chisel - the edge can't be blunt, but the apex on it isn't shapton 30k either. If the file blank is annealed (like left overnight in vermiculite) and very soft, the...
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    It's interesting as I can't tell if he means "not...

    It's interesting as I can't tell if he means "not heated as much" if they're intentionally reheated far above tempering temperature and then quenched in oil, which would leave a different structure...
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    Thanks! On most chisels, I try to get most of the...

    Thanks! On most chisels, I try to get most of the shaping done on the anvil (the draw out of the tang, attaching the bolster, and tapering of the bit before grinding to clean up the hammer marks)....
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    Thanks, Rob! As far as the bolster goes, I may...

    Thanks, Rob! As far as the bolster goes, I may not have said exactly how I came to that process - basically limited equipment and wanting a good result. Colonial Williamsburg had a while where they...
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    I got a copy of that seaton chest book from...

    I got a copy of that seaton chest book from Taths. The US is a special case as there are a few sellers who are authorized to sell it here, so taths suggests we go to them and requests not ordering it...
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    almost forgot (and not that important) - the...

    almost forgot (and not that important) - the reason that I took a picture of the more common (now) bevel edge type is that it's a little larger, but what I noticed after thinking the seatonish...
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    At this point, a little bit more taper grinding...

    At this point, a little bit more taper grinding and evening up the taper is done on the chisels that are getting ready for heat treat (in a small can forge - easiest way to have good temperature...
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    Seaton Chest-ish Chisels

    Still on the chisel making things, but busy work is making for slower chisel making.

    I've seen talk from time to time (often from one person) about the superiority of the very thin chisels that...
  47. I'd find a nice vintage set of chisels from...

    I'd find a nice vintage set of chisels from England and import them. Not like later marples, etc, but older chisels that are well finished (earlier marples, ward, i. sorby, etc).

    I had mostly...
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    Well, now that you've patted yourself on the back...

    Well, now that you've patted yourself on the back for making utility edges that you'd move on to a different method from, tell me what your process is and I'll tell you where it's not the same as...
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    Straight 1/2" shaft is fine.

    Straight 1/2" shaft is fine.
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    the "pizza wheels" do a good job of both end and...

    the "pizza wheels" do a good job of both end and long grain - hard to describe them - think of running a pizza cutter with just a small intentional amount of bluntness in the center and not...
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