Wip

[Stu in Tokyo]

OK, this is the latest HF, yes a Work In Progress (WIP).

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Notice how deep I went this time round with the captured hollowing rig

About 25 cm ( 10") and I have to say, that the last cuts were fine cuts, or the whole rig would vibrate something awful, still, it worked well.

I've finished it with sanding sealer and two thinned coats of cellulose lacquer.

I'll let it sit for a while and harden, then sand it some and such.

I'm not sure I'm going to put a cap, or collar on this one, but I've not made up my mind yet.

So, how do I turn off the bottom?

I'm thinking to take it out of the chuck, swap ends, and make a jam chuck for it. The one thing I worry about is the bark inclusion is really weak, I fear that if I put any pressure onto the neck, or spout of the HF, it will crack, so, what I was thinking was to put a LONG jam chuck into the HF so the chuck jams against the inside of the bottom of the HF, if that makes sense.

Suggestions?

Cheers!

[joe greiner]

That'd probably be the simplest method. Turn a long round thing with one end chucked and the other on the live centre. Make the headstock end close to the HF's opening to keep it centred, but not so snug as to risk damaging the opening. Then, without removing from the chuck, slide the HF onto it and fix the bottom with the live centre. For added safety, I'd wrap the outside of the opening with several wraps of filament tape. Did you do the initial turning between centres? That'd give the tailstock something to engage; otherwise, you may need to fiddle with it a bit to get the bottom centred. When done, shave off the nubbin that received the live centre.

Joe

[Stu in Tokyo]

Well Joe, that is my plan, the long jam chuck!

I did start it between centers, I like that method.

Cheers!

[Stu in Tokyo]

OK it worked out fine!

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I chucked up this longish piece of Sakura (hard and stable) and turned a nice flat end on it.

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I then attached a piece of padding with double sided tape

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Here is is all chucked up, ready to turn the bottom off.....

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Sanded and ready for the final parting off

It worked!!

[WillyInBris]

Thanks for sharing Stu a good piece as well .

[Stu in Tokyo]

Well, here are some pics of the piece done............

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I think it turned out alright, for my second completed HF.

Cheers!

[lubbing5cherubs]

beautiful wood and beautiful piece
Toni

[rsser]

Nice bit of wood.

Not keen on the shape tho.

[Stu in Tokyo]

Nice bit of wood.

Not keen on the shape tho.

Could you be a bit more specific?

I'm just starting down this road, so I'm not really sure what makes a good shape, or form.

Seriously, if you don't like it, I know it is often a "Personal Preference" but, I can learn more by having different points of view etc.

Thanks!

[powderpost]

Very challenging piece, well executed. I am always reluctant to find fault with anybody's work, but agree the shape has no definition... in my opinion only. From a design point of view, it is better to base shapes on circles or half circles, elipse or half elipse shapes (squashed circle). Combining these produces an "egg" shape, which can be elongated or compressed. The elongated form would most likely suit this piece better. Again this is only my opinion offered in the hope of helping out. Regards
Jim

[WillyInBris]

Hi Stu I like the shape and yes I think its a personal thing, as for giving it a lid well I would personally say no but then (I am not trying to stereotype) would people in the country that you live in like it better with a lid?

I really like the light coloured wood that you are using can I ask what it is If I may.

[Big Shed]

My two bobs worth. I like the shape, it is unusual and makes the most of the features in the piece of wood, it works with the grain features and highlights the dark inclusion (for want of a better word).

Very well executed and finished, I certainly would have been proud to produce such a fine HF.

Thanks sharing Stu, loved the videos too as well as this WIP.

Oh, FWIW, adding a lid would spoil the shape in my opinion.

[rsser]

Yeah it can of course only be personal preference. But the history of design and of personal choices repeated throws up some aesthetic norms. See posts on the forum on eg. the golden mean or ratio. And take a look at Raffan's book on turned bowl design.

And as you're in the land of Zen you lucky sod check out the classic vessel shapes of Japanese crafts folk.

Edit: FWIW, watch how the eye travels around a piece. Hard to do on your own work I know.

This piece, my eye keeps being drawn to and held by the bottom. Dead end.

[Stu in Tokyo]

Thanks guys, I really do appreciate all the comments, especially the critical ones

I cannot improve if all I get it "Attaboys" (not that my ego don't mind them )

I think the bottom of the piece is not well shown, it is rounder than it looks in these pics, I'll try taking another pic or two of it, from a lower angle.

The whole pic taking stuff is also new to me.

Again, thanks much!

[joe greiner]

The WIP pics show that the bottom is shaped more round than apparent from the final pics. For myself, I like to leave a wee step (abt 1mm or less) at the bottom (like pic 3 of post #4); the bottom then sort of floats above the support. Also, best to trim the bottom concave or with an internal step, so it's supported only by a ring. Less tendency to rock as warping may continue or re-start by the environment.

The shape seems to have captured most of the bark inclusion. I don't think another shape would do as well. I like it a lot.

Joe