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    Default VFD for my vintage AEI 3 phase motor (running a Dyco Superfine 12" table saw)

    Hi everyone,

    Thanks for having me in this forum, I have been reading through a lot of threads and the content is amazing.

    I have bought a Dyco Superfine 12" Table Saw and it comes with this vintage AEI motor:

    motor-plate.jpeg

    I have seen the restoration made by Charlie (Dyco 12" Table Saw) and initially I thought of doing the same, but I can't find a cheap single phase motor with a flange mount here in New Zealand (I am on a budget), so I decided to for the VFD solution.

    I also have read BobL pinned threads and they are great, I just want to confirm I am doing the correct thing.

    This is the current wiring:

    motor-wiring.jpeg

    Newbie here, but I get from this that it is Y connected, therefore it is configured to use 380/440v at 4 amps? And if I change this to ∆ connection it will use 220/250v at 6.9 amps? Am I correct?

    That said, I want to buy one of those AliExpress VFDs and I have my eye on these:




    Cost wise they are similar, costing between 80 and 100 NZD.

    Another question is: to plug the VFD to the wall socket, I need a 15A plug or can use the regular 10A?

    Many thanks!








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    Either one will work. Go for the 2.2kW version. A 10A plug will be fine.
    To connect in delta, remove the (dodgy) bridge and replace it with three vertical bridges. You would need to put a meter on the windings and make sure they are wired to suit the 3 straight bridges first of course. A bit of insulated wire with a lug on either end would be a better bridge than whats there.
    Those were the droids I was looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by campidelli View Post
    ...to plug the VFD to the wall socket, I need a 15A plug or can use the regular 10A?
    I think 2.4kW is the limit for a 10amp plug, so you may get away with it. However start loads will exceed 10amps briefly - and if the "briefly" is too long it will blow your fuse/circuit breaker.
    The beauty of a VFD is you can set them for a soft start and thereby reduce the start load.

    You may find you need a much higher rated VFD to allow for motor loads - but I'm no expert on this - so hopefully someone who is will be along soon.

    Cheers, Vann.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NCArcher View Post
    Either one will work. Go for the 2.2kW version. A 10A plug will be fine.
    To connect in delta, remove the (dodgy) bridge and replace it with three vertical bridges. You would need to put a meter on the windings and make sure they are wired to suit the 3 straight bridges first of course. A bit of insulated wire with a lug on either end would be a better bridge than whats there.
    Thanks for the reply! I am going to change it to Delta and get the 2.2kW 1 220v IN to 3 220v OUT then.

    Do I need to put a circuit breaker before the VFD? If so, which one do you recommmend?

    Thanks!

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    Ordinarily because of the high start up currents a 15A Socket with dedicated 15A breaker would be needed for a 2.2kW motor
    BUT
    If you use VFD you can program it to "slow start" so the currents don't exceed 10A so you can use a 10A Socket.

    Just bear in mind that if you continually push the table saw too hard it will easily draw more than 10A - I can get mine to draw 17A before it trips the thermal fuse on the motor..

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    Quote Originally Posted by campidelli View Post
    Thanks for the reply! I am going to change it to Delta and get the 2.2kW 1 220v IN to 3 220v OUT then.

    Do I need to put a circuit breaker before the VFD? If so, which one do you recommmend?

    Thanks!
    You dont need a CB before the VFD. The CB is to protect the cable and is taken care of in the switchboard. The VFD will current limit and protect the motor.
    Those were the droids I was looking for.
    https://autoblastgates.com.au

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