Thread: Bed Head

garfield,

There are a lot of questions there. I'm trying to think of a short cut for you- one that won't be too expensive.
To dress timber you really need either a planer or a thicknesser or both. I guessing that they are both a little out of your price range at the moment?
If you have a good source of undressed timber it is certainly the way to go, but if you are buying small amounts at Bunnings etc, the pine is dressed already.

My suggestion is: (and I acknowledge I have a $ interest here), plan to build the bed(s) out of radiata pine, work out your dimensions and send them to me. I'll give you a price for dressed, finished, rounded corners that you won't get anywhere else.
Or if you wish, give me a link to one of the plans you like (E Bay) and I'll plan it for you.

Graham

(PS Don't go out and buy a thicknesser just yet)

Carry, Just PM me a price if you like.

I need,

60x60 @ 1.2meters x 8pieces

100x20 @ 2meters x 4pieces

100x20 @ 1meter x 2pieces

170x20 @ 2meters x 3pieces

Is the radiata pine straight? I had a look yesterday at some and it was all knotted and warped. I'm led to believe that its very hard to find straight pieces.

Thanks
Geoff

Pine is straight as. But will investigate lengths tomorrow.

Graham

Ok, great.

Originally Posted by Carry Pine

Pine is straight as. But will investigate lengths tomorrow.

Graham

Hi Carry, Have you by any chance had a look at if you could supply the lengths of pine?

Cheers
Geoff.

Garfield,
Sorry for the delay. Here goes.

I'm assuming you are making a single loft bed.
Standard measurements of a single bed are : 900mm X 1880mm or for a long single: 900mm X 2040mm. If you decide to make a double or queen loft bed there is enough length in the timber to do it.
The way I see it you need:

rails
90 X 25 X 2010 (2 of) These have a full length piece of angle iron attached by screws that the slats fit onto)

ends
120 X 25 X 1470 (Queen size) (2 of)

posts

75 X 60 X 2140 (4 of)

protective rails - so you don't go over the side

90 X 19 X 2020 (2 of)

slats

65 X 19 X 1525 (Queen size) ( 6 of but not enough- have used some)

extra 'bracing'

90 X 25 X 2020 (4 of)
90 X 45 X 2080 (1 of)

plus the ladder ( 2240mm)

I also have all the knock down fittings so if you didn't really want to do mortise and tenons the corners, these things hold very well.
Price is the hard thing. it was my daughter's bed so I don't get the $ here. I will throw in a pile of pine that I have at home and deliver it all to a Sydney address for $100.

Hope that is reasonable,

Carry Pine

Originally Posted by Carry Pine

Garfield,
Sorry for the delay. Here goes.

I'm assuming you are making a single loft bed.
Standard measurements of a single bed are : 900mm X 1880mm or for a long single: 900mm X 2040mm. If you decide to make a double or queen loft bed there is enough length in the timber to do it.
The way I see it you need:

rails
90 X 25 X 2010 (2 of) These have a full length piece of angle iron attached by screws that the slats fit onto)

ends
120 X 25 X 1470 (Queen size) (2 of)

posts

75 X 60 X 2140 (4 of)

protective rails - so you don't go over the side

90 X 19 X 2020 (2 of)

slats

65 X 19 X 1525 (Queen size) ( 6 of but not enough- have used some)

extra 'bracing'

90 X 25 X 2020 (4 of)
90 X 45 X 2080 (1 of)

plus the ladder ( 2240mm)

I also have all the knock down fittings so if you didn't really want to do mortise and tenons the corners, these things hold very well.
Price is the hard thing. it was my daughter's bed so I don't get the $ here. I will throw in a pile of pine that I have at home and deliver it all to a Sydney address for $100.

Hope that is reasonable,

Carry Pine

Hi Carry, Mate that is extremely reasonable! I'm actually wanting to make 2 loft beds @ 1200 high and 1000 wide..... By the sounds of it you only have enough timber to make one... would that be the case?

A bed I made http://www.dbcourt.co.uk/woodwork/King_size_bed.html probably not what you had in mind though.

Cheers

Dave

Originally Posted by davo453

A bed I made http://www.dbcourt.co.uk/woodwork/King_size_bed.html probably not what you had in mind though.

Cheers

Dave

I love it Davo! Mate how do you use that sketch up? I see down the bottom you sketched up a picture to see how it would look. That's what I really want to do. I want to get some ideas by looking at other beds and get some ideas and put something together with my own mixed design. I don't know how to use that sketch up to that degree and most of the tutorials are roof pitch and rectangle shapes. How did you get to that level?

Cheers
Geoff

Originally Posted by garfield

Hi Carry, Mate that is extremely reasonable! I'm actually wanting to make 2 loft beds @ 1200 high and 1000 wide..... By the sounds of it you only have enough timber to make one... would that be the case?

1000 wide! A king single is 1040 wide and a 3/4 bed is 3040 wide.
In any case the timber I have is for a queen size bed and will be plenty wide enough.

Yes it was ONE bed, making 2 beds like this is a big undertaking for you. Let me know if you are still interested. This would be a very good excuse for me to have a clean up of pine around the place.
And could you PM me the suburb so I can get my head around the logistics?

Graham

Bugga, now I can't remember who posted about making some loft beds for the kids. Anyway, being an old seafarer we sort of had a nautical theme going. The young bloke (as a toddler...5yrs) hankered for a ships bunk, so I built him this bunk that had no visible means of support bar the timber ladder. In other words it was screwed to the wall and the ladder just looked like it supported the whole thing. He loved it and he even got his lady teacher up there to prove it would support the two of them. It is solid as.

We have moved house and have no more need for said bunk. It is a single maybe a bit wider. It is made of craftwood in a pine veneer with the edges rounded over, and polyurethaned. I made the ladder out of pine and it too has a poly finish. It can be fixed anything up to around 5ft high to bottom of bed,....so that is about 1500mm to base. Your kid will be lying about 1650 high off the deck. How cool is that?

It's going begging to whoever really needs it...for their kids ok. Just pm me.

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In other words it was screwed to the wall and the ladder just looked like it supported the whole thing. He loved it and he even got his lady teacher up there to prove it would support the two of them. It is solid as.


Hope this thread doesn't get moved!!

CP

Originally Posted by garfield

Mate how do you use that sketch up? I see down the bottom you sketched up a picture to see how it would look. That's what I really want to do.

If I do say so myself I'm a bit of a wizz on Sketchup now, but as with most software it's taken a lot of practice and trial and error. It's worth learning though as once you have the concept it all sort of falls into place.

Like all 3d programs it is a bit quirky.

If you private message me and send some dimensions i could do a drawing in sketchup based on your design for you to play with........

Cheers


Dave

Originally Posted by davo453

If I do say so myself I'm a bit of a wizz on Sketchup now, but as with most software it's taken a lot of practice and trial and error. It's worth learning though as once you have the concept it all sort of falls into place.

Like all 3d programs it is a bit quirky.

If you private message me and send some dimensions i could do a drawing in sketchup based on your design for you to play with........

Cheers


Dave

Ok great! I'll send them through Davo.

Thanks