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23rd March 2006, 05:36 AM #16
Dan,
Thanks for the link to the Brusso brass templates; my jig does more or less the same thing, but you have to set the stops and fence accurately, and clamp the workpiece to it with a spacer; so it is a bit time consuming to get it right, but is more or less foolproof, once set up. I wouldn't fancy trying to do it on a router table, though.
Lignum,
Good point about the Makita trimmer; it is a tool I would like to own, but don't.
Derek,
I am afraid I am too much of a coward and a klutz to use hand-tools to do such a crucial task as cutting the hinge mortices on a box that has already taken a fair amount of effort to make. One slip, and hours of work and some nice wood could be ruined. Hence my predilection for the foolproof method, where you can't go wrong.
Rocker
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23rd March 2006, 06:32 AM #17
I afraid I would have to be a turncoat for this task. I reckon I'd use Rockers morticing jig. A test cut or two to make sure it is going to cut perzactly as you want, and away you go.
Of course if Rob wished to supply a tail free roter, then I'd be more than happy to give it a spin. (Get it, tail free router, spin.......... OK I'm sorry.)Boring signature time again!
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23rd March 2006, 08:25 AM #18Originally Posted by Rocker
Sorry for the dumb question - I expect I'm just having a mental block on this.
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23rd March 2006, 08:56 AM #19
Rocker,
I used this style of hinge in my boxes ( http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=29653 ) but they were smaller thinner versions. I used a straight router bit on the router table, with appropriate stops for the hinge housing (with lots of trial cuts on scrap), I couldn't think of an easier way of getting rounded ends. Clean the rest up with a small chisel.
The deeper cuts for the stay, I drilled out both ends of the mortice and what I could of the rest, then used a Dremel lookalike to clean up the waste. With my hinges the motice had to be undercut a lot due to the stay design, not sure if the Brusso is the same. I assume that was your basic plan?
As for dark side methods, I didn't have a chisel small enough for my stay's mortice (would need to be 2mm?), and I would have thought these hinges would have come with square ends to suit a chisel if they were made in the days when the dark side was the only way?
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23rd March 2006, 09:29 AM #20.
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Originally Posted by Rocker
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23rd March 2006, 10:41 AM #21
Don,
It was easy enough to clamp the box lid to the jig, using a piece of 3 mm MDF as a spacer, so that the bit would clear the edge of the window, as shown in the pic below. Clamping the box itself to the jig was a bit trickier, but perfectly possible.
The short answer to your second query is that you wouldn't cut a mortice across the width of your workpiece, because you would be cutting the mortice across the grain - you would cut two mortices parallel to the grain instead. But if you were determined to cut the mortice across the grain, you could easily do so by closing the stops together on either side of the router so that it could only move perpendicularly to the micro-adjustable fence.
Hmm, can't attach the pic for some reason. I just used two 2" clamps to clamp the box lid to the horizontal platform of the jig.
Rocker
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23rd March 2006, 11:47 AM #22
Don,
I will try again with the pic.
Rocker
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23rd March 2006, 03:37 PM #23
The attached scanned pic is from Tauntons Complete Illustrated Guide to Box Making by Doug Stowe. ISBN 1-56158-593-9
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23rd March 2006, 05:15 PM #24Originally Posted by Rocker
Originally Posted by Groggy
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23rd March 2006, 06:06 PM #25
Don,
Not perspex -wood. It is a support fence to assist in clamping the workpiece, based on an idea suggested by Al B. See http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...t=28732&page=4 , post #54.
Rocker
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24th March 2006, 12:11 PM #26
From the "Have you built the Rocker Mortising Jig" post.
Originally Posted by Rocker
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27th March 2006, 01:49 PM #27Novice
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Hinge Wizard
I purchased a Beall Hinge Wizard from www.bealltool.com.
It is an ingenious invention that is designed for this job, can use a number of different templates and is fast to set up and use. It is a great gadget
regards Snowy
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27th March 2006, 03:33 PM #28
Snowy,
Thanks for that link; but I doubt if I shall be making enough boxes to justify getting that jig.
Rocker
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