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    Default The Diary of a Woodworking Nobody!

    Because of other distractions (setting up a new business etc ), I haven't spent anything like enough time on woodworking lately .

    So, in order to set myself a challenge, how about this

    Recently, courtesy of the Squizzman, I acquired a useful small quantity of jarrah (see pic below). This collection once formed a small part of the roof of a house that Squizzy demolished.

    I intend to convert this material into a table. I'll use a design similar to the one illustrated in the most recent edition of FWW (ie, breadboard ends, arched stringers etc).

    To make sure that the project doesn't languish, I'll post pictures of the progress on this thread. That will provide me with the motivation to give it priority over things that might otherwise intervene.

    Your comments, suggestions, ideas and general input are welcome. I don't promise to follow any or all of them but I will be most grateful for your thoughts. If the table is a success, you can all claim part of the credit. If it's a stuff-up, you can blame me!

    The first challenge is to re-saw some of these timbers. Currently they are roughly 4" x 3" (or 100 mm x 75 mm). I'm going to split the 3" dimension. I don't possess a bandsaw so I'm going to do it the way Tage Frid recommends. I'll saw them through partway on both sides using my trusty Triton 2000 WC and then complete the cuts by hand with an old panel saw - or possibly with a Japanese Z saw - whichever cuts more efficiently.

    Any alternative suggestions?

    Col

    Incidentally, although I don't intend to use exclusively Dark Side techniques on this table, a glance at the other pic will show you that a certain influence is exerted over my efforts! :eek:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driver
    ...........To make sure that the project doesn't languish, I'll post pictures of the progress on this thread. That will provide me with the motivation to give it priority over things that might otherwise intervene............
    Col,
    hope this works better for you than for me, I've still got the two halves of our bed sitting in the lounge room from months ago.

    Mick (languishing in anguish)
    "If you need a machine today and don't buy it,

    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

    - Henry Ford 1938

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    Quote Originally Posted by Driver
    ...a design similar to the one illustrated in the most recent edition of FWW ...
    Which issue is that? (month?)
    I'm interested.
    I asked here for any table plans about 12 to 18 months ago & didn't get a single reply.
    I have 3 tables to make, I have collected enough recycled silky oak for at least 2 of them.
    Cliff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers
    Which issue is that? (month?)
    I'm interested.
    I asked here for any table plans about 12 to 18 months ago & didn't get a single reply.
    I have 3 tables to make, I have collected enough recycled silky oak for at least 2 of them.
    Cliff

    It's issue #178 - August 2005. Page 38 is the reference. Issue #177 - June 2005 has a pretty good article on the principles of table design - showing dimensions, proportions, styles etc for a variety of different types of table.

    Hope this helps.

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    Cool, I'll go looking in the morning... I have a book on design but it's at the other house so I can't quote it at ya. I used it & some plans I found on the net to make up my own idea of a plan but it's still an idea so I'll check out the FWW & see too.
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    I've done that, Triton & all, used a sharp Japanese saw too. Then had to flatten the sawn side..

    I went out & bought a bandsaw with 12" (30cm) resaw capacity - I wasn't going thru that again, and that was only a bit over a foot of hand sawing

    I'd suggest you see if you can get some shop time on someone else's bandsaw if you don't want to shell out for one of your own - they are very handy.

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    Cliff
    what types of tables?
    see if your local library can get a copy of some of these books:
    Fine Woodworking on Tables and Desks, Taunton
    Dining Tables, by Kim Carleton Graves, Taunton (USD$24.95)
    Tables, by Anthony Guidice, Taunton (USD$24.95)

    have a look at FWW's online archive, there are 41 articles on tables.
    the one here http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/pages/w00078.asp is even free

    also do a Google Image search for table plans ansd see what comes up

    ian

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    Incidentally, although I don't intend to use exclusively Dark Side techniques on this table, a glance at the other pic will show you that a certain influence is exerted over my efforts! :eek:
    Your shot already mate...That desk is WWWaaaaYYYYY to tidy

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian
    Cliff
    what types of tables?
    ...
    Dining tables, thanks for the leads, I'll look into them.
    Cliff.
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    I hope it works for you Col.

    When I attempted a dovetail joint recently and posted the stuffed up effort, the imagined peer pressure from the BB prompted me to try again at the very next opportunity.

    Look forward to the progress reports especially mid week when woodwork comes to a halt almost for many of us.
    - Wood Borer

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    I await the next installment with bated (not baited) breath.

    Hey, what a great idea for a new thread though. You follow each person's suggestion, no matter how ridiculous. Then see what you end up with. A sort of physical manifestation of the Rip thread, if you get my drift. Start with a pile of Jarrah on the ground and go from there.

    My first contribution: cut the jarrah up into 1 foot lengths. Get out of that one!
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

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    Then make offset secret mitred dovetails at increasing angles consistent with a golden rectangle but spiralling outwards.
    - Wood Borer

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    Then get a beer & stand back & look at it..... the creation, not the beer....
    Cliff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wood Borer
    Then make offset secret mitred dovetails at increasing angles consistent with a golden rectangle but spiralling outwards.
    .. Or in ever decreasing angles until it finally disappears up it's own fundamental orifice, ala the Oozle Woozle bird.
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

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    Step number 1 would be to remove those nails before resawing:eek:

    I've got a similar lot of timber from a demolished shed, which I'm thinking about using for a benchtop. I've removed all the visible nails, but I'm paranoid about any that might still be lurking. I'm thinking about using one of those electronic stud detectors to scan for hidden ironmongery in the wood. Would it be hijacking the thread to ask if people think this is a good idea?

    I, too, lack a bandsaw, and regularly use the Tage Frid method of tablesaw resawing, except I go all the way through, if I can. Looks like you should be able to as well. Do you remember why Frid leaves a bit in the middle? Is it because the saw won't reach all the way through, or is it a safety issue?
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.

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