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7th March 2005, 12:14 AM #1
Managing l-o-n-g boards when planing.
Since the flatness and stablility of the supports are critical when planing, I wonder how others manage long boards. The ones in the pictures are 9 foot (2.75 m) long, destined to become a Jarrah and Pine loft bed for my son. This length is a little unusual for typical constructions - or is it? On the other hand, boards in the 5 to 6 foot range are quite common for table- and sideboard tops, especially when jointing edges.
So how do you manage long (and longer) boards?
Pictures #1 and #2 illustrate what I am referring to.
Picture #3 is a bit of fun. A 9 foot shaving, measured thickness 0.002". Plane used was a Mujingfang 11" long smoother/jack. I just love this plane on soft wood!
Regards from Perth
Derek
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7th March 2005, 08:39 AM #2Originally Posted by derekcohen
Since most of the things I make have parts less than 1.2m long, I try to cut boards into roughly finished lengths for the reasons you've outlined, and because it's much quicker, easier, and less wasteful to flatten/straighten a short part of a curve. But occasionally, of course, you have to leave a board long for some unavoidable reason. The bed-extensions on my jointer earn their keep, then, but if it's more than 150mm wide, it's back to the steak and patatoes-driven machinery to get the job done.
I can get 2M between dogs on my bench, so up to that length I'm ok - over that, it's a matter of using clamps on the bench tops, and all sorts of ingenuity and bad language. Fortunately, I've rarely needed to do it.
Cheers,IW
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7th March 2005, 08:54 AM #3
The hardest part is making sure I have 9 feet of clearance beyond the blade on my jointer
Seriously, I could not plane a board that long in my current bench set up because one end is against the wall and there is another bench in the way at the other end. Boards of up to 6 feet I can plane by clamping one end in the vice and either resting the other end on a drawer pulled put out slightly from the cabinet under the bench, or clamping it against the side of the bench."I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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7th March 2005, 09:36 AM #4Senior Member
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Get yourself an outfeed roller stand and set it to the height of the outfeed side of your buzzer table. Record make a nice roller stand. I've found I can plane 3-4m length boards no problem. I use the same roller stand on the outfeed side of my table saw (panel saw) when cutting wide panels. And to support long rails or door styles when I'm clamping them into a morticing jig. Etc. They're handy little things.
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7th March 2005, 09:49 AM #5
I've done it heaps of times, mostly making timber masts and stuff, by clamping between two workmates, with sandbags on them.
Given the usual state of tune of my usual weapon, the Stanley #4, mostly this also involves judicious use of the foot to keep the thing steady, and it goes without saying that I'm not working to .020mm tolerances!!
(See workmate thread...)
P
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7th March 2005, 09:55 AM #6
I edge joint on my sawbench.
For long lengths I just add an extension to the fence.
I joint faces with my thicknesser.
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7th March 2005, 11:00 AM #7
My bench is 2.4m long no worries! I like the look of the Lee Valley roller stand though, for the thicknesser. Check it out - looks to be good value too.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...at=1,240,41060The only way to get rid of a [Domino] temptation is to yield to it. Oscar Wilde
.....so go4it people!
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7th March 2005, 11:58 AM #8
Like Midge, I use two Workmates (actually, I've got one old Workmate and two cheap knock-offs). With a bit of additional weight on the steps and with one foot holding things in place, this works reasonably well.
Incidentally, Derek, why are you planing such long boards to make a bed for your young bloke? I've met him and he's not 9 feet tall!
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7th March 2005, 12:51 PM #9Intermediate Member
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Hi Derek,
I add an extension to the face vise that is just a coupla pieces of wood with a few dog holes. This gives the necessary extension to my tail vise. I think it might have been in MoW in FWW at some time. Will post a pic when I get around to it. I like it though - works well for me.
All the best,
Chris
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7th March 2005, 02:38 PM #10Incidentally, Derek, why are you planing such long boards to make a bed for your young bloke? I've met him and he's not 9 feet tall!
Best
Derek
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7th March 2005, 02:42 PM #11
Hi Chris
I look forward to seeing your pictures. I could do with a longer bench, but do not think that this is the solution for edge planing where boards are not flat (yet).
Regards from Perth
Derek
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7th March 2005, 04:33 PM #12
I know, I know, they is made by Triton but these stands are excellent.
http://www.triton.net.au/products/ms_2.html
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7th March 2005, 04:39 PM #13Originally Posted by Sprog
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7th March 2005, 05:18 PM #14
I've never needed to tackle a 9 foot board, I can't wait to see pics of the young bloke when he outgrows it.
My bench is around 7ft long, Record front vice plus a row of dog holes along the front with a home made hold down lets me clamp up to about 8ft, (2.4m for the imperially challenged) wothout too many probs.
Getting an 8ft shaving is more a challenge.Boring signature time again!
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7th March 2005, 09:40 PM #15Senior Member
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Now Derek
You must think we all came down in the last shower. Come on, admit it. This thread wasn't started to find out how others plane long boards - it is really to show off a 9 foot shaving at 2 thou. I bet you have shown it off to anyone who comes within 50 metres of your garage.
CheersPete J