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    Default Measure twice and .........

    Ageing eyesight can create new problems.
    Marking out a small spindle, I set out the length and then started marking out the coves etc some of which are only 1/16". I'd picked up a draughtsman's scale instead of my usual steel rule and didn't notice I was using twelfths and not sixteenths until there didn't seem much room for the vase shape.
    So now I have a new process - measure twice and then check the rule.
    Cheers,
    Jim

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    O'Tool's number one rule. Murphy is an optimist.
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    At least you figured out the blunder before doing anything irrevocable, Jim.

    You would think that after 50 plus years of measuring & marking that I could get such a simple procedure right, but t'other day I made the classic mistake of marking a board 100mm too short. That's not hard to do, you may say, but it gets worse. I was actually docking several boards, all of which were approximately the same length, though I had trimmed a bit off several to square them & get rid of knots and daggy ends. They were too long to use the stop on the saw fence, so I hand to mark them all.

    As I cut the 4th or 5th board, one half of my brain said to me "that's an awfull lot of waste on this one...", and just as I completed the cut, the other quarter of my brain computed that the amout of waste was longer than it had been on the previous board, which hadn't needed pre-trimming. B*gg*r!! There are occasions in life where it would be just so good if we had a "rewind" facility!

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    If you take notice travelling around NSW, a lot of railway bridges seem to be the same design. We have a couple in Tamworth. They came from a company in Scotland and have dates cast into them 1880 ish.
    I can imagine some railway engineer writing to Scotland for a steel girder bridge of such and such a length to be delivered to whoop whoop. The engineer does the survey and tells the navies to put down peers in a particular point. The bridge arrives and what do you know ........it misses "by that much"(Maxwell Smart contribution). Now what do you do Scotland is half a world away and here the lads have to deal with a problem in whoop whoop
    I made a tray with compartments for a railway trike I am restoring. I have built it twice so far. The measurements on my rule seem to bunch up one end and give me a false reading. Or is it the aging process?
    Just do it!

    Kind regards Rod

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    I work mostly from photos and sketchy details stored in my head. With age-related deterioration of the grey matter, you can imagine how well that goes at times!

    T'other day, I was preparing the stock for the top two drawers of my current kneehole desk build. The photo I'm working from shows a single, full width top drawer, while in my mind, I had decided on two short top drawers.

    I ended up with a single, long drawer back – which, thanks to the width of the central divider, means I can still retrieve two short backs from. However, I am also short of two drawer sides which is a nuisance because I'll have to prepare more rough material to the same dimensions.
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    I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.


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    Thanks. At least I'm not alone
    Cheers,
    Jim

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    Mr WW
    I am glad that there is somebody else who does things like you described. I have never entertained having a multi task machine as inevitably after a series of set ups to do a project I definitely would be one piece short and have to unset then reset the machine to duplicate the offending/missing part.
    (My secret is out....I'm a cretin!)
    Just do it!

    Kind regards Rod

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    I can remember my father in the early 1950's doing something that relates to this.
    He had waited for some time to get the right pelmet timber for a quite wide window. He made it up, brought it inside and then found it was too short. My sister and I each got a pelmet for our respective windows.
    Tom

    "It's good enough" is low aim

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    Mr Chesand
    You describe a problem from the 50s....I wonder how long it has been around and when was it first discovered
    Just do it!

    Kind regards Rod

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    My most common one yes I have done it more than once, is when carefully counting the 1mm divisions on the Triton 2000 saw fence, is to find I have counted up from the full number on one side and down on the other. it does wonders to your cut.
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    Hugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by chambezio View Post
    Mr Chesand
    You describe a problem from the 50s....I wonder how long it has been around and when was it first discovered
    I'd reckon it has been forever. I wonder how the Greeks and Romans hid their mistakes.
    I suppose the slave who made the mistake would be flogged or worse.
    Tom

    "It's good enough" is low aim

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    Measurement is good. I just cut the wrong side of the line.

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    Next time might be better to scribble on the waste side.

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    What always rubs it in for me is the example set by my late FIL. I saw him make a full-size dresser when in his eighties drawing up the plan and the cutting list on a small scrap of paper. I took him to the timber merchants where he had them running around for the quality he wanted. At the finish he had a small cardboard box with the off-cuts in - barely enough to act as kindling for a fire. A lifetime in the trade certainly left its mark.
    Cheers,
    Jim

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