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1st December 2008, 08:59 AM #1New Member
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Mounting a large solid slab mantle to a wall
Hi. I'm new here. Hope this isn't a stupid question.
I don't have much experience with fireplaces and mantles. I did a search on here as well as many search engines but couldn't find anything directly pertaining to my situation.
I have a solid (yellow cedar, I think) slab (approx 25cm x 20cm x 183cm) that I want to use as a mantle. The slab is extremely heavy. I have to "walk" it around my shop. I managed to get it up on my shoulder to bring it in. I'd guess it probably weighs in at about 200 to 250lbs (90 to 115 kg). I'm going to mill it down a bit but not much.
The wall is 2x4 studs on 20" centres (4 studs in mounting area). The fireplace is rough stone approx 10cm thick with a reasonably level but uneven top surface.
I'm unsure as to whether I should have the slab bearing on the stone and attached somehow to the wall or just mounted to the wall like a shelf.
I'd like to have any hardware completely hidden (countersunk into the top would work too)
Does anybody know if there is some sort of commercially available hardware to handle so much weight?
How would one normally go about mounting something like this?
Thanks in advance,
Darren
Delta, B.C., Canada
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1st December 2008, 09:27 AM #2Banned
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Hi jjavaman ,
there are no stupid questions ,
there can be some bloody silly answers tho
My way would be to ,
Use 10mm threaded steel rod , as a glue dowel , about 100mm into the slab , and a at least 50mm into the studs , allow extra for the wall lining if it is on .
Drill horizontally into the studs , with corresponding holes into the mantle.
Dry fit the slab . If you need to slough out the holes a tad , or tap the rods over a bit here is your chance . Keep things as tight as possible , within reason .
Figure out whether the rods are best put into the wall or the slab first .
Use a good glue , or epoxy , and coat the rods well
Lay mortar along the top of the stonework , but insure that as the timber is driven on , the mortar does not build up behind , and prevent a tight fit to the wall.
Don't do it on your own , and , use a hammer block .
Most importantly , have fun , and post pics
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1st December 2008, 02:10 PM #3
Hi Darren
My previous house had 2 x 10 inch shelves attached directly to solid brick walls. Not as massive as your mantle slab but after 30 years is still going strong. The technique seems the same as Jocks.
The previous owner had drilled the brickwork and then epoxied 8 mm (5/16 inch) steel rods into the holes. He then just slid the shelves over the rods - three rods per shelf - about 8 ft long.
I later asked the gentleman how he lined up the holes. He said he got three small lengths of rod, filed a point on one end, drilled through that rod and put a stopper nail into the hole in the rod. He then put the rods into the brickwork holes - the nails stopped them going too far. He then just pressed the shelves into place and the pointed ends on the rods put witness marks onto the shelves.. Then he drilled 8 mm holes through the witness marks.
He said that he then epoxied the longer rods into the wall. After he had ensured the holes in the shelves lined up properly he bent one of the rods a little. The resulting tension was sufficient to hold the shelves in place without any glue and leave them removable in future, if needed.
I used to remove the huon pine shelves to polyurethane them and to paint the wall behind them.
Cheers
Graeme
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