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11th May 2012, 07:07 PM #1
Scheppach vs Carbatec Oscillating Spindle Sander
I was just about to buy the Scheppach OS-58 benchtop oscillating spindle sander, when I took another look at the Carbatec OVS-CT one, which has a couple of extra features such as tiltable table and a 1/4" minimum drum vs the Scheppach 1/2".
The Scheppach is faster at 2000rpm vs 1440 for the Carbatec. Also, the oscillation rate of the Scheppach is once per second compared to once every 2 seconds for the Carbatec.
Now I'm not sure. The Carbatec is better on paper, but costs $200 more, (The Scheppach is $195 + deliv, the Carbatec is $419 + deliv for now, on special until 9 June, then back to $459.
A possible drawback of the Scheppach is that it only uses 80 and 120 grit drums, whereas the Carbatec has 60, 80, 100, 120 and 150 grit available on request.
So, my question - can anyone give me any feedback on either or both of these units, before I commit myself on Tuesday? Especially the Carbatec. I do like the extra features of the Carbatec sander but was mainly wondering if it's reliable, since it's really an unknown Taiwanese brand.
Scheppach: W843 | OS-58 Oscillating Vertical Bobbin Sander | machineryhouse.com.au
Carbatec: Carba-Tec® Benchtop Oscillating Spindle Sander : CARBA-TEC
Any help is greatly appreciated.... Steve
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11th May 2012, 09:31 PM #2
Generally speaking, slower speeds are better when sanding timber. If the Carbatec one is made in Taiwan, that usually means that it is a reasonable product.
Where is the Scheppach made, bet ya it's China?
Have a look at the weight difference between the 2 as well, Carbatec is 37KG whereas the Scheppach is 14.6kgCheers
DJ
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11th May 2012, 09:38 PM #3
A lot of pretty crappy products come out of Taiwan, along with some good ones. And I've bought some pretty crappy stuff from Carbatec, too, as well as the good. That's why I asked for advice from guys who own these machines. What looks good on paper is not necessarily good in practice.
Thanks for the info about sanding speeds - I thought that faster would be better, as long as it's not so fast it burns. Faster is better with my oscillating sander, (Dremel MultiMax).
I'm most definitely leaning toward the Carbatec model, but want some feedback first. Although the Scheppach is only a small table model, they are a reputable manufacturer.... Steve
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11th May 2012, 09:51 PM #4
I had the scheppach and would not buy again. the motor burnt out in less than 6 months and I only used it three times in that time for light work. The scheppach design is a common one to many brands with different names applied. I spoke to someone on the weekend who had the Carba-Tec and they said don't buy it get a JET.
I'm in the market for a new spindle sander also so I approched Gregory Machinery and asked them for a deal on their JET as the TWWW is coming up next week. Guess what, no deal came back. Just one of the many ways not to treat a customer for a sale I say. So I'm still looking and I have money that can wait for someone with a deal.
SBPower corrupts, absolute power means we can run a hell of alot of power tools
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11th May 2012, 09:55 PM #5
Thanks, Superbunny. I was wary of the Carbatec, that's why I posted. From what I've heard about their other products, I thought that the Scheppach would be decent, but now I know better. I'll be using it a lot and don't want it to burn out.
How much is the Jet? (I'm only on a pension and pretty limited in funds, but I do need a sander fairly quickly. Like yesterday.)... Steve
-- Monkey see, monkey do --
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11th May 2012, 09:59 PM #6
I bought the Sheppach because I could not justify the extra cost of the Carba-Tech product.
It seems OK to me. I did the inside curves on this bloke on it....
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I bought mine at $165 in one of Hare & Forbes' regular sales.
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11th May 2012, 10:00 PM #7
Yes Scheppach is USUALLY good but it might pay for you to look a bit further into this, as I've heard lots of horror stories regarding their wet stone grinders on this board.
As I said, bet ya it's made in China like the wet stone grinder but then again it might be really good and made in Taiwan
Point I'm making is that even though it's a reputable brand, it doesn't mean it's the best, I know of other top brands with crap equipment cause it was made in China, but then again, yes some good stuff has also come out of China as well.Cheers
DJ
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11th May 2012, 10:03 PM #8
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11th May 2012, 10:05 PM #9
Of course you're right. With a limited budget, though, I was trying to find the best of the lower-priced machines. It sounds like none are any good. I just checked Gregory Machinery to try to get a price on the Jet, but clicking on 'Power Tools' leads to an empty page.
So, now I can afford to spend up to a max of $500, need this sander most urgently, but have nothing to buy.... Steve
-- Monkey see, monkey do --
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11th May 2012, 10:15 PM #10
Good price. I just checked eBay, just-in-case. One only for sale for $235 delivered, a 'Smit'.
Anyone heard of them? 1440rpm, 1/2" to 3" spindles.
As Acco asked, too, I'd be interested to hear what the problem actually was with the Carbatec model.
Charleville, I like the dog, but have to ask - what is it? a golf club?... Steve
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11th May 2012, 10:29 PM #11
G'Day "Hermit",
I got a Scheppach for Fathers Day last year.
While it hasn't had as much use as I'd planned [ie hip replacement] I've given it a reasonable workout and it's still going well.
I use the "sander clearing rubber" to keep the sanding sleeves going as long as possible.
On the issue of different grit sleeves, someone some time back mentioned you could do an order for a sleeve at the diameter & grit you wanted from a local supplier.
[sorry can't remember the name but don't think it's one of our sponsers "Sandpaper Man"].
Anyways, just my two bobs worth.
Cheers, crowie
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11th May 2012, 10:45 PM #12
Thanks crowie. Under the circumstances, I'm sort of leaning toward the Scheppach again at the moment, because it's cheaper to replace if it does die. I could get two Scheppachs for the price of one Carbatec. And thanks for the info regarding replacement sleeves.
I just found another, a 'Major' MWE-BS5 at Major Woodworking Equipment, $440. MWE-BS5 Spindle Sander - Major Woodworking Equipment
Anyone heard of these?
I dunno. The Scheppach is cheapest if it dies prematurely, but is limited. I can't order one until Tuesday anyway, so I'll mull it over a bit, keep an eye on this thread and see what happens. I really appreciate all of this input.
Edit: Jet list Trend Timbers as one of their distributors, so I've emailed them for a price on the JBOS-5: - http://www.jet-tools.com.au/Machiner...rs/JBOS-5.html (I don't expect good news.)
Meantime, back to the Microplanes, Dremel and sanding blocks.... Steve
-- Monkey see, monkey do --
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11th May 2012, 11:27 PM #13
Nope. It is the latest in a series of hobby horses that I have made for grand kids.
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I have at least two more to make.
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11th May 2012, 11:31 PM #14
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12th May 2012, 12:21 AM #15
Did you try to return it under warranty? (I assume they have a warranty.)
At this stage I'm completely disillusioned. I've been looking forward to buying this for weeks and now I find out that if I buy one of the ones I can afford, I'll just be buying junk. I can't continue sanding by hand. It takes 10's of hours.
I surrender.... Steve
-- Monkey see, monkey do --
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