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    Hi,
    I am about to attach the top (solid wood) to a table I built using figure 8 table top fasteners but I now realise I am not sure how to use them.

    The idea is to allow movement of the top across the grain but I don't see how these figure 8 things acheive that.

    If I just screw them in then the top is locked inplace. I don't see how they allow any movement.

    Can anyone please enlighten me before I go ahead and use them.

    Thanks.

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    Mate I preffer to use buttons where possible

    From a previous thread

    http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...hlight=buttons


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    I've only used buttons, but this seems to describe the use of 8s:

    http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com...OD&ProdID=6801
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.

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    The oversize hole in the fastener allows for movement.
    Ahh... all becomes clear now

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    I have seen other methods used.

    I havent used them myself. (I have used figure eights). I saw one bloke use a biscuit jointer cutter to cut slots in the apron of the inside of the table. Then he used these pieces of wood that were screwed to the tabletop with a leg which sat into the hole cut by the biscuit jointer cutter. He said you can but these but he made them himself. They were really strong too. This table top was 25mm thick and not small. The piece was quite heavy. I was quite hard to lift comfortably so if figure eights were used they might give way.

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    [QUOTEI havent used them myself. (I have used figure eights). I saw one bloke use a biscuit jointer cutter to cut slots in the apron of the inside of the table. Then he used these pieces of wood that were screwed to the tabletop with a leg which sat into the hole cut by the biscuit jointer cutter.][/QUOTE]

    these be buttons,

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    Yes, but slots cut by a bikkie machine? Tell me more.
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    I use Lee Valley's Tabletop Mounting clamps (US$4.50 for a pack of 50), see http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/pa...,40146&p=40146 . I cut slots for them with a biscuit joiner 11 mm below the top edge of the apron. They may not be as authentic as shop-made buttons, but they are a lot quicker.

    Rocker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty
    Yes, but slots cut by a bikkie machine? Tell me more.
    Instead of running a dado along the rail just cut the slots with a biscuit cutter where you wan't them and round the front of the biscuit
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    Howdy;
    Rocker, I grabbed a pack of those from Hafele (Melb) for about $7 the other day, but haven't used them yet. I agree they're not pretty but I've a hall table in mind with a really thin top that I reckon they'd be good for.

    Ashore, forgive my slowness, but I still don't quite geddit. I thought the rebatey-bit on a button block needed to be comparitivley (sp?) thick; or does one make a couple of passes with the BJ to widen the slot? Anyway, it's NYE, so see yers tomorrow probably.

    Have a good one,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker
    I use Lee Valley's Tabletop Mounting clamps (US$4.50 for a pack of 50), see http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/pa...,40146&p=40146 . I cut slots for them with a biscuit joiner 11 mm below the top edge of the apron. They may not be as authentic as shop-made buttons, but they are a lot quicker.
    I've used a lot of these and they work well. You can do similar with wood blocks you cut yourself in place of the clips.

    Paul

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