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Thread: Table saw V's Triton
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7th May 2004, 05:21 AM #31Intermediate Member
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Triton V nothing at all
Hiya Shannon,
I've worked in a few woodworking shops in my life, one tooled up with super, money no object scribing panel saws, spindle moulders and 4 edge planers. All were a joy to use, needed loads of space, 3 phase power and serious dust extraction. The dust extraction units themselves were much larger than my double garage/workshop.
I have also made furniture and kitchens with just a small circular saw, a power planer, a router (with a good selection of cutters) a B&D workmate style bench and a homemade router table. Also the usual hand tools of course. I also had to contend with working outside.
So I have worked at both ends of the scale. The latter was a complete pain in the ass as you can imagine, so before I started on a major kitchen project, I just couldn't face doing this all again.
Since I do not have the money or the space for even low end workshop machines, which I have also used, the Triton WC and accessories seemed to fit all I wanted to do. And to some extent it does.
There is no way that I will delude myself or others by saying that Triton gear will compete with even the cheapest multi-function workshop machinery, which will set you back a good few grand. It is just in a different league. Like comparing a Kia Pride with a BMW 5 Series Both get you from A to B but.......! The latter is five times the price though.
The point is though, on a budget and/or limited space, it at least makes wood working a LOT more tolerable than doing it with nothing at all. Maybe that is why I am so easily pleased
If I could afford it, I would certainly trade my Triton in for a decent combination machine from say, KITY.
The cheapest one is 3-5 times the price of the corresponding Triton gear, but it would pay for itself if it has a lot of work to do.
The triton has its place though, and it is not serious furniture output. Since I fall into the 'as long as it does a better job than a chainsaw or an axe' school of standard, I am happy with it.
Only kidding, it is easy to get good results, and some people have produced some stunning work. It just needs constant fiddling to keep the thing accurate and to get these good results.
If you go Triton, just be prepared to accept compromise and maybe have to put up with some questionable quality problems as I have.
If I was buying the tools to help me make my living, I would certainly advise against getting the Triton stuff, but for hobbyist guys like myself(I am into computers now), who cannot justify spending twice as much cash (especially to the wife) for more professional tools, it does the job.
Cheers,
Raymond.
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7th May 2004, 10:02 AM #32
Working Outside in Scotland
One would have to be keen building furniture and cabinets in an open air workshop, front or back yard in Scotland.
Now that would be a challenge, moving a decent table saw outside to use it everytime
One thing that I love about my Triton is portability.
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7th May 2004, 05:43 PM #33Intermediate Member
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Good weather in Scotland...Honest
I only ever did the work on good days in the summer. It was not my living so I was not too bothered by it. I put a good sized tarp on the ground to catch the sawdust, and kept another one handy if it looked like rain.
I never really got caught out.
I also had my tools near a large shed, which was not big enough to work in, but I could quickly throw my tools in when finished.
This was the bit that was the pain in the bum. Taking my tools out, watching the weather, putting up with the wind blowing the sawdust everywhere, and then putting it all away again.
When I finally got the chance to work in my own workshop and also start to use some tools, like the Triton stuff, to make other jobs quicker and easier, it was sheer heaven.
Probably the same feeling of relief that somebody who had been using Triton stuff for years, finally upgraded to a real combination machine with real dust extraction.
Cheers,
Raymond.
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7th May 2004, 06:09 PM #34
The versatool workcentre seems like an amazing idea!
Has anybody used one?
Are they available in Oz?
The look to have just about as many features as a Triton 2000
And the cost should be a fraction
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7th May 2004, 06:27 PM #35Intermediate Member
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Check this out
Drool on this
The tool featured is a particularily good one(expensive)
Also, when you have to buy other accessories, especially spindle moulder cutter sets, appropriate extraction etc, we are talking serious, suck up to the bank manager type money.
If I was furniture making for a living, I would be putting a tool like this in high priority.
I hope this is what you mean by versatool.
Cheers,
Raymond.
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7th May 2004, 06:30 PM #36
Nope, I was referring to www.versatool.com that Guy referred to earlier.
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10th May 2004, 02:15 PM #37
Well thankyou yet again for your very valued opinions regarding the equipment.
My latest thoughts are as follows:
I will be going with a tablesaw.....eventually. The whole point of the question was to try and decide before the WWW sydney show, but alas the family funds just aren't going to justify such a large dent at the mo. There is light though for next year. This time around though, I have been encouraged enough to keep plugging away with the restrictions presented by my current set up (mainly the lack of accessories as opposed to the actual debate of tablesaw V's Triton) and also the restrictions of the user, which I assume would be the same if I had a TS
So, I will be at the WWW show on Friday or Saturday and might pick up a few other items that will come in handy for my modest workshop.
Thanks again, and I shall keep you posted when the TS is set up - even if it is after a couple more birthdays (and maybe a few promotions to help the kitty )
Cheers.Cheerio.
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10th May 2004, 03:09 PM #38
Versatool is available from Timbecon in WA
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11th May 2004, 07:16 PM #3921 with 26 years experience
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I own the current model triton and I have to say that for the money and for a hobbiest it is a good peice of gear - at the time we bought ours (about 12 months ago) the equivlient priced bench saw was a flimsy low end heap of junk that had significantly less table area.
But I think the idea of being able to use your existing saw is bit of a con - we got the triton home, took one look at all the farting around to install and align the saw and went straight back to the shop for another power saw.
The blade alignment is also a cow to get right - at the moment my blade is about 1mm out, but that 1mm means that I can't run the blade guard so I am breaking every rule in the book by running an exposed blade.
So factor in the cost of a saw when you decide to buy but you don't need all the add ons, all we got was the wheel kit and a stand.
Cheers
Smidsy
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12th May 2004, 07:45 PM #40
Cost Effective Options
From this thread, and a lot of other reading, I'm starting to think that buying a table saw would be a better option than buying the triton workcenter/triton saw combo, since I need a table saw more than i need a portable saw.
Two questions, though. What on earth is the difference between a "contractors" saw and a table saw? And are there good saws on the market for a comparable price to the triton combo?"Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate" - William of Occam.
http://homepage.mac.com/rhook
Robert Hook
Brisbane, Qld, Australia
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12th May 2004, 08:03 PM #41
A contractors saw needs a degree of portability whilst the cabinet saw proper can weigh a ton and the lower half is usually totally enclosed.
The cabinet saw is usually the better of the two.Bob Willson
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12th May 2004, 08:03 PM #42Senior Member
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I think you mean the difference between a cabinet saw and a contractors saw as the term table saw would cover all saws mounted in a table.
A cabinet saw is larger and heavier than a contractors saw and therefore even less portable but inherently more stable.
Timbecon are currently selling a 12 inch 2hp contractors saw (brochure arrived today) for $799 which makes me spit cos I paid over $1k for mine and apart from the colour it's identical. The saw is generally a good one for the price. even if the fence is annoying at times.
Cheers Dave
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12th May 2004, 08:44 PM #43
Timbecon contractor saw
Originally Posted by davo453
Seriously, that's one saw that caught my eye (my catalogue arrived yesterday), and I hope to have a look at them at the WWW show this weekend."Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate" - William of Occam.
http://homepage.mac.com/rhook
Robert Hook
Brisbane, Qld, Australia
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12th May 2004, 08:58 PM #44Registered
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Originally Posted by Smiffy
Dadaaaahhhhh
All built on a triton, apart from the thinneser.
Cheers, Allan
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12th May 2004, 09:05 PM #45
Thats an impressive clock Allan which of course would be a piece of cake on a Triton.