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Thread: Unloading new machinery
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2nd September 2004, 06:29 PM #1
Unloading new machinery
I will be setting up a workshop in the next year. I am concerned how the hell I am going to unload a 250 kg table saw from the trailer.
How did others do it. I dont fancy a block and tackle hanging from the rafters nor an engine crane due to height issues.
Do machines break down into manageable bits, that are not too heavy?
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2nd September 2004, 06:34 PM #2
Jim,
I just had the same problem.
My table saw tsc12hb came already assembled. So i just pulled the fence off, took the two cast iron table wings and the table top off.
The cabinet bit with the saw trunions is a bit more managable, (i managed to get it out myself, but would be easy peasy for two people.)
Paul"Looking west with the land behind me as the sun tracks down to the sea, I have my bearings" Tim Winton
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2nd September 2004, 07:09 PM #3
I will be having a similar delicious problem in a couple of weeks. The supplier tells me that this type of machinery is easily handled by a couple of blokes. I hope he is right.
ernknot.
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2nd September 2004, 07:15 PM #4
I've got the same problem. Once I build my new shed, access will be via at least one lots of steps or a fair down hill slope (15-22 degrees - I can see a tablesaw/thicknesser gaining a fair bit of momentum with this option). I'm incorporating a protruding overhead universal beam into the shed design to attach a winch block to, but I'm still left with a 1.5 metre stepped rise to negotiate from the carport before the o/h beam and winch comes into play.
As far as your problem - break it down as far as possible, ensure the body is mounted to a temproary pallet/wooden base to prevent damage and consider some good rope/winch extension straps, 4-6 treated pine rounds, a boat trailer winch mounted to a post concreted in the ground, a couple of solid crow bars, an improvised ramp of three bearers from the trialer onto t/p rounds ...... riggers gloves......
All of these are options I'm considering + the incentive of beer for a few mates to lighten the workload.
A couple of weeks ago I helped a couple of blokes move a 2.5 ton generator off a tandem trailer and twenty feet into position using fairly simple rigging principles and some of the gear mentioned above without putting anyone at risk of doing an injury.
(It helps if you're a big bastard - at least that's my excuse)
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2nd September 2004, 07:18 PM #5
Ernknotfrom looking at the list of stuff you bought in another thread, i would be getting the local football team around for a BBQ when the truck arrives!!
Paul"Looking west with the land behind me as the sun tracks down to the sea, I have my bearings" Tim Winton
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2nd September 2004, 08:28 PM #6Senior Member
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drop the tailgate, reverse up the drive way as fast as you can, hit the anchors and let good old Mo do the rest. Mo mentum that is.
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2nd September 2004, 09:05 PM #7
Geeez! We are not launching boats mate.
ernknot
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2nd September 2004, 10:23 PM #8
Yes I had the same prob myself when I got my TS a couple of months ago.
Suddenly you have a couple of hundred kilos sitting in your driveway that you have to deal with :eek:
My TS wasn't shipped fulyy assembled so I unpacked the crate in the driveway and was left with the guts of the saw on the pallet, probably about 150kg.
I had to move this down two flights of stairs, and up three stairs into my underhouse shed.
Getting it down the stairs usinfg a trolley was o.k. (just) but getting it up the three stairs was beyond me (I'm not a big bloke).
What I ended up doing was taking off the cast iron table and the 3hp motor. This was most of the weight. I was then able to get it up the stairs.
Putting it all back together added a bit of time to the saw set up but it was the only option I had, and anyway it's just a memory now.
Easties advice is also excellent. I guess you've just got to play it by ear.
Good Luck
Cheers
Craig
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2nd September 2004, 11:01 PM #9
I just asked Harry to help
Harry Ferguson that is!Ross"All government in essence," says Emerson, "is tyranny." It matters not whether it is government by divine right or majority rule. In every instance its aim is the absolute subordination of the individual.
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2nd September 2004, 11:52 PM #10Originally Posted by Different
Hire shops have pallet lifters, like a forklift but manual operated. Make sure you pride and joy arrives on a pallet and no worries if there is no stairs . They'll handle up to about 1/2 tonne (check). My arrangement is going to require 3 sheets of plywood across the front law....sandpit to get to the new shed. Otherwise call up a skyhook.
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3rd September 2004, 12:46 AM #11
I would suggest that you invoke "The Old Mate" principal as I have come to call it. For example if I need directions I go and see "The Old Mate" at the local servo, need help on a car problem "The Old Mate" at the appropriate car workshop. For help to unload heavy stuff see "The Old Mate" who drives the local Hardware ,Brick,Council or somesuch company truck that happens to be fitted with a HIAB crane. There is also "The Old Mate" who rats around town on the Forklift. At most it might cost you a slab.." Mates Rates"
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3rd September 2004, 06:22 PM #12
I usually leave unloading detail to the wife shes used to coping with heavey things.
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3rd September 2004, 08:06 PM #13
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3rd September 2004, 10:26 PM #14
One tonne Chain block,shackles,wire strops, some bit of grunt and the heaviest piece of machinery I have being the Combination M/c came off the back of the truck no worries.
A comealong/chain block some shackles is a good investment in my view and allows the truck/ute to back underneath.
Has helped me out with all heavy gear.
CheersJohnno
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3rd September 2004, 10:44 PM #1521 with 26 years experience
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A pallet trolley is no good because they have extending legs at the front so they are no good for unloading a pallet from a trailer.
An engine trolley would probably be no good because the legs are configured to sit under the car which means they would stop you lowering anything relatively wide to the ground - check the measurements, you might get away with it.
Delivery by Hiab truck might be the go as 250kg is a light weight for them so they would be able to extend the boom inside your shed if they can get next to the shed.
Another suggestion would be to make a trolley before hand and collect the saw with a car or ramped furniture trailer - if you design the trolley in two pieces you could use a car jack to lift the saw to remove the trolleys after you've wheeled it off the trailer and in to the shed.
I would suggest 4 mates though, I unloaded an 80kg lathe on my own by lifting one end at a time from my van to a trolley so 4 people should be able to handle 250kg - disassemble as much as you can to lighten the weight a bit.
Cheers
Paul