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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnaduit View Post

    Neil is right about not charging a subscription fee - the live-in diehards mightn't mind but the thousands of people who are through-traffic would disappear, and the forums would be like a ghost town. You wouldn't get even nearly the diversity of feedback the forums have now.
    exactly
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    its a free world we live in the brain washing comes with a cost
    smile and the world will smile with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by dai sensei View Post
    I respect Neil's wishes, but it doesn't stop members ensuring they spend up on UBeaut's products at the WWW shows or via the internet.

    That way the users get to have great products, and Neil gets to make some $'s from the profits, which in turn partially get returned into this forum.
    I agree.

    Neil has said there will be no fees so why continue on that line. It is a fruitless destination.

    Give Ubeaut all the support you can by purchasing his products. - That way he will be happy, cant refuse your money.

    If you want to contribute to the forum become a prise draw donor mr unmanimousey is always an option.

    Respect the dictators wishes.

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    I don't expect any of this discussion to change Neil's mind .

    FWIW though, I'm with Echnidna, Gunnaduit and Neil. This is a 'free' service to the members and anyone can join in, that is why the place is successful. If people pay an 'entry fee' they may develop expectations; I can see Neil not wanting pressure from all directions.

    At present we participate as equals and always get value for our money, I'd rather not see that change if it can be avoided.

    As for the admins and mods, what a bunch of yobbo's

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    Like most members I joined the free service and was introduced to arguably some of the best products in the wood working world, which I purchase in preference to other finishing products that are run by big multi nationals.

    PS I am a Sawmill Creek contributor, so I have no problems with contributing financially, but it is Neils decision to remain Free, so I will continue to support Ubeaut by purchasing their products.
    Pat
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    Sorry Pat, just have to get this in before it's too late.....
    As for the admins and mods, what a bunch of yobbo's
    Ya boofhead Greg.
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    Hey ya stole my thunder Pat.

    2 boofheads in one thread. I'm gobsmacked.
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    Although I've been around on here for a while and in that time appreciate what the forums have offered thru generous input by PREDOMINATELY NEIL and his Moderators, I do go with the thought that keep the forum flowing easily so that more people also become aware of what Neil offers with his forum by keeping access free.

    This in keeping with the good product he produces will also create an awareness of his product which in turn should rightfully so aid in keeping the forum afloat,no mean feat in itself considering the membership and the product turnover that it could benefit from.

    I would willingly contribute more if per chance it could benefit the forum monetarily or by any means at my disposal ,however I defer to fair reason that to maintain volume of membership and therefore easy access to all it offers of the forum Ads and all ...then so be it!

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    I had the joy of sharing my woodwork with a tradesman at my workplace today. I also had the joy of sharing the address for The Woodwork Forums with him, he's going to share it with his Dad....... etc etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by ubeaut View Post
    As long as my bum points to the ground
    All I can say is that Neil's bum is not for turning!



    End of debate, now onto buying more UBeaut, did we really need convincing?
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    Easy way out , anyone that wants to support the forum buy
    1 Trad wax
    1 Hard shelac
    1 whatever
    order by the net on Neils birthday every year , that way you get something , neil gets the profit on the item and by ordering on his b'day he knows your doing it in support of the forum , cause I don't rekon his bum won't change direction , unless he goes skydiving
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Saxton View Post
    Although I've been around on here for a while and in that time appreciate what the forums have offered thru generous input by PREDOMINATELY NEIL and his Moderators, I do go with the thought that keep the forum flowing easily so that more people also become aware of what Neil offers with his forum by keeping access free.

    This in keeping with the good product he produces will also create an awareness of his product which in turn should rightfully so aid in keeping the forum afloat,no mean feat in itself considering the membership and the product turnover that it could benefit from.

    I would willingly contribute more if per chance it could benefit the forum monetarily or by any means at my disposal ,however I defer to fair reason that to maintain volume of membership and therefore easy access to all it offers of the forum Ads and all ...then so be it!

    Cheers
    Jeeez John. You could have just said "right ho."
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    And by supporting Neils "Ü Beaut" product you're sure won't get the bum's rush!

    If'n ya want to help don't wait for NEIL'S birthday to buy it instead buy a heap o' U Beaut stuff now and send it to him for his birthday!

    Cheers
    Johnno

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    Neil
    After reading your email my first thought was that maybe you should have a donation link on the opening page? If you have already then I am blind.
    This way there is no fee to be a member but we could help you maintain the best woodworking site on the net.
    If I had to pay for the information and entertainment that I get from the WWF I'd be broke.
    Just a thought
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    The way I see it, there are two ways to help Neil.
    Buy his products and recommend them to others.

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