Thread: The Eagle has landed!

Thanks for remembering Fred ;-}

The party isn't over 'til the dial gauge has sung.

Finally had time to do some fine tuning and measurements on the new tablesaw.

Very pleased with the results:

Run-out on the arbor flange:

Factory allowed tolerance is 0.02 mm (0.8thou), their measurement was 0.01mm
(0.4thou), my measurement confirms that.

Run-out on the arbor shaft:

< 0.5thou

Parallelism between blade and mitre slot:

Factory Tolerance = 0.3mm (12thou)
Their measurement = 0.1mm (4thou)
My measurement confirms that, I tried with 2 of my 3 blades and both came
up the same.

Minimum blade height:

Factory tolerance: 77mm
Their measurement: 77mm
I measured 77.5mm

Blade run-out:

I measured 6 thou with one blade, 4 thou with the other


Tabletop flatness:

Main table, could not get any feeler gauge under the straight edge at any
position

Left-hand wing, maximum of 4 thou in diagonal centre

Right-hand wing, could not get any feeler gauge under the straight edge

Note that I don't think all these precise measurements mean anything per se,
however they are an indication of the workmanship that went into the saw.

I have now checked and adjusted all settings, including the tension on the
poly-V belt, which is about 35mm wide, this runs on aluminium ribbed pulleys.
This poly-V belt makes for a very smooth, quiet running saw.

Have also adjusted the fence, which was almost perfect out of the box, slight
adjustment needed to get at right angle to the table. Also measured deflection
at the rear end by putting sidewards pressure on. Maximum I could get was
about 8thou, but that was really putting some pressure on.

Having had to change the saw blade several times for all this testing and
measuring has really made me appreciate the arbor lock.

So, to sum up, I am very happy with the TS10L saw, it has lived up to my
expectations, in fact surpassed them.

Do I think I got value for money? A resounding yes!

Would I buy it again? Very definitely!

So, it is time to start making saw dust.

Was at A&R Salvage yesterday and bought some 32mm laminated panel for the
extension table and also some 25mm MDF for some shelves for SWMBO's jigsaw
puzzles. She has run out of shelf space, she has some 120 odd!

Good result Fred. Thanks for the post.

Originally Posted by Big Shed

Have also adjusted the fence, which was almost perfect out of the box, slight
adjustment needed to get at right angle to the table. Also measured deflection
at the rear end by putting sidewards pressure on. Maximum I could get was
about 8thou, but that was really putting some pressure on

G'day Big Shed,

Your fence, what is the height to the front rail?

I'm asking as the fence on my 10HB is a piece of . It moves if it's not clamped down - it's a right royal pain. If your front rail is a height of 30mm, then I might find out about getting one or seeing if I can exchange the fence.

Problem is compounded with the fence not having enough area to clamp onto the rail.

Originally Posted by Waldo

G'day Big Shed,

Your fence, what is the height to the front rail?

I'm asking as the fence on my 10HB is a piece of . It moves if it's not clamped down - it's a right royal pain. If your front rail is a height of 30mm, then I might find out about getting one or seeing if I can exchange the fence.

Problem is compounded with the fence not having enough area to clamp onto the rail.

Hi Waldo, are you sure you adjusted the TSC10HB fence properly? There are so many people on the forum that have that saw that I'm a bit surpised by your comment.

Having said that, I looked at the 10HB in the C/tec showroom and it flopped around like the proverbial, but I just assumed that it hadn't been st up properly.

The fence on my TS10L is a ripper (excuse the pun). It gives about 1270 ripping width and locks down really easily. It doesn't move a lot even when not locked down, but that is a function of 2 nylon Allan screws on the moving part of the fence that can be adjusted to give any resistance required.

When you say "what is the height of my fence", what height specifically are you referring to? The height of the rail from the floor, the height of the back part of the front rail (if that makes sense)?
Or the height from the top of the table to the top of the rail (9/16").

I'm sure there will be TSC10HB owners that will comment about your dissatisfactio with the fence

Edit:

Just been to the shed and meausred the front rail.

The rail that bolts to the table is 65x65 angle.
The rail that sits on top of that and supports the actual fence is 75x50mm.

Hope that helps, if you need more info, just holler.

Big Shed,

I know this thread has been a long one, but can you provide over the coming weeks some feedback on the rip / dado capabilities of the saw.

I already have two (well sort of) saws - a minimax 300 CU Smart that I refuse to take the sliding table fence from so as save it as sqaure which I use this for accurate cross-cutting as well as ripping sheets. And a 10 inch Jet TS. This last one was purchased as a "dedicated" dado saw but I seem to rip on it too frequently.

I'm really after another saw I guess. The ultimate would be a Laguna which aren't sold here. I want a tabel saw with longer rip support, a riving knife and decent dust extraction when ripping.

Let me know how you get on with your new acquisition.

regards Jefferson

I can certainly give you feedback on the ripping, however I don't have a dado blade set as yet and am still making up my mind whether to get one.

I am also about to fit the Triton Maxi Sliding table to the saw, so will report on that as well.

Could take a little while though, going to Adelaide on Friday or Saturday for eldest daughters' birthday, then to the Woodshow on the 27th.

Doubt whether I will do much before I go away, lots of "last minute jobs" to be finished, including the yearly BAS statement

G'day Big Shed,

Yep, can see where my post was confusing. The front rail ala the RHS is 60 x 30mm so a simple retro fit of your fence won't work. Looks like it'll be a complete retro fit when I can someday.

Originally Posted by Big Shed

Hi Waldo, are you sure you adjusted the TSC10HB fence properly? There are so many people on the forum that have that saw that I'm a bit surpised by your comment.

The fence is very annoying. A visit by Skew confirmed my anguish. The fence only goes on one way and there's no adjustment in it, except for two plastic grub screws to adjust the fence 90º to the table. We had a thought of flipping the lock down handle to solve the problem of insuficient clamping area - but there's two pins that locate the the handle to the body of the fence, so that didn't work.

I guess I've got a dud fence.

Originally Posted by Big Shed

Having said that, I looked at the 10HB in the C/tec showroom and it flopped around like the proverbial, but I just assumed that it hadn't been st up properly.

sounds like mine.

Be interested to see how the Triton Maxi Sliding Table goes on. It'd sure make running 2400x1200 sheets of 18mm MDF a bit easier.

I'll tell SWMBO down the track (months for saftey reasons ) that I'm upgrading the fence.

Originally Posted by jefferson

Big Shed,

I know this thread has been a long one, but can you provide over the coming weeks some feedback on the rip / dado capabilities of the saw.

I already have two (well sort of) saws - a minimax 300 CU Smart that I refuse to take the sliding table fence from so as save it as sqaure which I use this for accurate cross-cutting as well as ripping sheets. And a 10 inch Jet TS. This last one was purchased as a "dedicated" dado saw but I seem to rip on it too frequently.

I'm really after another saw I guess. The ultimate would be a Laguna which aren't sold here. I want a tabel saw with longer rip support, a riving knife and decent dust extraction when ripping.

Let me know how you get on with your new acquisition.

regards Jefferson

Uhm, I have a Jet 10" Table Saw that has magnificent ripping, and crosscutting capability, the dado set up is very good as well....in fact I think it is quite similar to Fred's saw - except much better of course

I am now frequently changing from crosscutting, ripping, and dado/rebating. It takes about a minute to change blades....With a zero clearance insert there is very little dust.....

Fred, a great thread.

But mate.....

grab a screwdriver an put a big scratch on the top!

Then you might fire her up in anger and start sawing some timber.

I am too much of a big kid when it comes to new toys.
I ordered my Trupro tablesaw from MWE at the Sydney show -Saturday 16th.
They delivered it on 20th, Monday morning.
The packing was ripped off, mobile base fitted, wings, fence fitted. Box wired up. Checked fence and mitre slots and they were nice and parrallel with the blade.
Switch turned on before dark.
What a joy to hear that soft werring sound.
Rip a thin strip of ply, no problem.
Ripped a piece of MDF, no problem
Ripped a lump of jarrah, smooth as.
Everything covered in fresh sawdust - great.

I did give it a nice brush down before I went to bed.

Enjoy your new machine Fred.
Take your time, savour the moment......

Originally Posted by Waldo

The fence is very annoying. A visit by Skew confirmed my anguish. The fence only goes on one way and there's no adjustment in it, except for two plastic grub screws to adjust the fence 90º to the table. We had a thought of flipping the lock down handle to solve the problem of insuficient clamping area - but there's two pins that locate the the handle to the body of the fence, so that didn't work.

I guess I've got a dud fence.

Waldo, I must say I am very surprised that the multitude of TSC10HB owners haven't come to the defence of the fence.

When I was researching the selection of my tablesaw I was bombarded with suggestions of "buy a TSC10HB, best thing since sliced bread", that is apart from those that were deadset set on a Jet.

As I said above, I looked at the TSC10HB in Carbatec and was unimpressed by the fence.

Surely your fence has to have something wrong with it, but then no other TSC10HB owners have sprung to its' defence, so maybe yours is par for the course.

So come on all you TSC10HB owners, does Waldo have a dud fence or do you have the same problems?

Originally Posted by Big Shed

So come on all you TSC10HB owners, does Waldo have a dud fence or do you have the same problems?

G'day Big Shed,

Yeah c'mon!

Hi Waldo, not too sure what your problem is. Maybe some close up pics of the clamping arrangement to show your problem. I think I have the exact same fence and mine is rock solid.

Well, it had to happen sometime, it will never look as pristine as this
morning again!

Cut some 25mm MDF for some shelves for SWMBO's jigsaw shelves, also ripped
some 400mm wide strips of 18mm MDF about 1800 long.

Very happy with the ripping performance on these panels and also very happy
with the 2 blades used, a 40 tooth and an 80 tooth.
I bought these blades on the recommendation of another forumite, thanks
Spartan. I bought them from Northwood Tools, very well priced blades and
excellent quality, 3 blades 24/40 and 80 tooth for $120 including delivery!

At the price they are fantastic, every bit as good as my 60tooth Triton blade.

The dust extraction below the blade is very good, haven't connected the dust
extraction on the guard as I still have to buy some 65mm hose, hence a bit of
dust on the table (Picture 1).

I hope this redeems me in your eyes Scally!