Thread: My shed - from the ground up

Originally Posted by vsquizz

Well you didn't think I was smart enough to think of them myself did you???...did you??



Cheers

Actually I did. Sorry about that.

Peter.

Originally Posted by boban

What's a humpy? And how do I protect the dustie from the elements, switch it on etc.

I usually paint outside because of the size of what I do, but I would love a finishing room, but can it be used for anything else? What I mean is that I dont want to lose too much space.

A humpy is a lean to with a roof and one or two wallls open to the prevailing wind. Install an inline power swith in the circuit to the DC power point and you can switch it on/of from inside the workshop.

The finishing room could also be used as an assembly area.

Peter.

Boban, A humpy is..(where did that term come from:confused: somebody) a little shed, a donger, a lean too, a very basic abode. But what we are talking about here is a bit of stud framing and some colourbond to keep the elements off the dusty directly against the outside wall of your shed. Maybe a bit of leftover concrete for the deck.

Despite the jargon spread, dust extractors exude really fine dust..everywhere and when its emptying time you invariably spill a little or a least put dust around the place. It just seems better to keep it all outside. Most pro shops have the dusty in a cabinet or separate shed. If its on the outside wall then the duct and the electrical are dead easy.

The main reason I suggested a finishing room is well...you have more space than most of us can dream about and almost every half decent piece of woodwork I have ever done has had some form of contamination in the finish, no matter how careful I have been.

May I also suggest (if you haven't already done it) that you try and work out a good electrical plan. Along with clamps you can never have too many GPO's and lighting is another area that might need some planning. At the very least it will assist a sparky.

Theres plenty of reading in these here threads about this stuff. Have you had a look at "Midge's Playroom" plan.

Cheers

So the dust extractor is going outside in a "humpy". A little more concrete and colourbond.

I look up the threads on the finishing rooms. Lucky with electricians - have a couple of mates who have taught me to rough in. They come and check the work and wire it all up.

Midge's Playroom is great and along with Sturdee's has given me ideas I would like to adopt. One thing I scared of is not to waste the space I now will have. I used to have my panel saw in a double garage with every other peice of machinery on wheels and know exactly what it's like to make do.

Sturdee's setup has to be admired (not just because it's clean) for the efficient use of space.

One other thing I did notice. Did everyone, including myself, start off with a Triton?

Keep the ideas coming guys, I don't care what they are?

By the way squizzy, your Maths teacher was right, and I have lived my life by that motto. Only the intelligent admit that they don't know it all.

Boban,

What are you going to do there?

My first thought (apart from wishing I had more space of course!!) is that you have a lot of waste area between machinery, but you may need it for whatever you are intending??

I agree with Squizz, I'd go for a finishing room rather than a tool room given the choice...or do you need the security??

I reckon with that much space you should set aside one of the corners for metal stuff too... then we'll all be even greener!!

Cheers,

P

I build the occasional office fitout and kitchen. Carcases and shelves take up so much space while youre waiting to install them. My MIG welder, oxy and cutting gear is going in a seperate awning attached to the shed. It's good to hear that you guys are environmentalists. For 15 years so was I.

I do want the security, I still live in Sydney (35km away). If I lose my hand power tools to a Crime Converters store, I would die. It's already happened once, not again. That's how I lost my Triton.

How big would you make the finishing room and how would you line it?

Boban,

Look at the best of the best postings for the links you are looking for http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=12260 on electrical, wood starage, finishing sheds, layout etc.

Cheers

In a corner somewhere put in a toilet/shower/wash trough and connect it to the sewer. Beats runnin dusty mid project through the house in an 'emergency.'

And you can use the shower once you have finished cleaning your fish after a weekend out on the boat or whatever.

J!

The other bit of advice that I got when building a new workshop is to put some kind of coating on the concrete floor to make it easier to clean. Cheapest would be paving paint - but you could also look into an epoxy coating.

Cheers

Originally Posted by boban

What's a humpy? And how do I protect the dustie from the elements, switch it on etc.

I usually paint outside because of the size of what I do, but I would love a finishing room, but can it be used for anything else? What I mean is that I dont want to lose too much space.

Sorry Mate, but I just had to laugh (and I am sure I wasn't alone among those of us who only have a small shed to work in) at your comment that you don't want to lose too much space with a seperate Finishing room.
I envy you greatly .

Mick

Iwent from a one car garage at my last place to a 6mx12m shed with a 4m wall, I thought this would be big enough, wrong, I am now convinced no matter what we have it will never be big enough.
And tomorrow the new router table arrives and I have no idea where it is going to go.

Originally Posted by numbat

The other bit of advice that I got when building a new workshop is to put some kind of coating on the concrete floor to make it easier to clean. Cheapest would be paving paint - but you could also look into an epoxy coating.

I'll second that!

In order of preference (least first):
Paving paint
Industrial concrete sealer
Industrial Epoxy coating

The epoxy is quite expensive, even if you do it yourself, but once you have done it you will wonder why no-one told you about it before! Because it is easier to clean, the dust just doesn't seem to hang around in sufficient quantities to be bothersome. And it just creates a much more pleasant environment!

Cheers,

P (Who won't ever work on a bare concrete floor ever again ever!)

I used Dura Seal on mine. I put it up the walls (Double brick) too because I didnt wanna (read: couldnt be stuffed) plaster them.

I was thinking about colour seal. Which is basically a tinted concrete sealer. I have seen a number of epoxied floors. What I like least about them is when you see them wear and chip. Even after repainting you dont seem to get that new look again. The sealer doesn't have that problem but I guess it's not as good with the dust. I get the sealer for about $100 for 20 litres. Any ideas on the price of the epoxy.

Mick news - as far as space is concerned, like Iain said it is never enough. If you have a look at my present shed, most would say that it is pretty big. I find the porblem more with the storage of unfinished items than actual working room. If I didn't store anything then I would be right. Or as SWMBO would say, "you wouldn't have a problem with space if you didn't jump from project to project without finishing". It's true, but thats me. Anyway she got her cows, sheep, dog and cats and I got my shed. That was "my shed". To think I started in a 3X6 garage and worked on the driveway.