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    Lightbulb Spiral Cutterhead Review (long)

    I recently took delivery of a Bridgewood 15" planer with a Byrd Spiral "SHELIX" cutterhead installed. It cost me an extra $800 US for the 15" stock planer cutterhead. I had originally thought of having one installed on my new jointer, but chose to put it on the planer on the sound advise of a very good friend. I thought I'd give a quick review because I know a lot of people think about buying one but the cost is relatively prohibitive. The Byrd cutterhead is simmilar to other spiral indexable carbide cutterheads, but the inserts are rotated 10 degrees to produce a true shear cut. you can read more here: http://www.byrdtool.com/journals.html

    This is what it looks like from the DC outlet.


    and out of the planer:


    After bieng satisfied with the results on some Birdseye Hard Maple...



    I felt confidant to try out the cutterhead on some Hawaian Koa with knots, reversing grain, and some serious figure. This stuff is $20 US per board foot and before buying the planer I was facing the task of face jointing and planing both boards by hand because my old dewalt planer would undoubtedly have disasterous effects. This is how the wood came from the sawyer. Notice the horrendous snipe from the sawyers planer on the far end of the rear board:




    I jointed both boards on my new 12" jointer with a 4 knife cutterhead taking repeated, very light passes. This removed most of the tearout , but some remained:



    I then began planing it using the Byrd head. the effect was pretty striking:



    You can see the difference in the freshly jointed and planed surfaces in the next photo. I alligned the most difficult grain on both boards so the difference would be as apparent as possible. the jointed 4 knife cutterhead surface is at rear and the planed byrd cutterhead is at front:



    Ironically I found that on straight grained hardwoods the byrd head actually produces a slightly rougher surface (to touch) compared to a straight knife cutterhead. This was only noticable by feel, not by sight, and not due to tearout. It's also immaterial because regardless of the cutterhead used, the stock still needs to be finish hand planed/scraped/sanded.

    To conclude, considering the type of work I do and the fact that each carbide insert has 4 cutting surfaces I can't imagine ever having to replace all the inserts. If you typically use only straight grained hardwoods, or softwoods, I can't see a spiral cutterhead bieng worth the price, but if you consistantly work with figured woods, this cutterhead is absolutely worth it's weight in gold (which is about what it costs :eek: ) And the planed Koa?
    Here is a pic of the timber waiting for a couple passes with the scraper plane, and then some finish. Have a good one!


    -Ryan



    OK, here are the first 5 photos atached in order ommiting #2 of the journal head since everyone can see that one. the remaining two I will attach in a reply on page 2.
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    Ryan,

    I don't know about others, but I can't access your photos. I get the messages like

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    Yo Ryan,

    Us Aussies are an imaginative lot, but even we can't get the gist without access to your pix

    Sorry
    Last edited by MajorPanic; 14th March 2005 at 06:29 PM.
    Cheers

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    Good one Ryan,
    I haven't seen these accessable to the hobby market before.
    Some of the domestic timber industry have been using these style of indexable heads for quite a while now, in several different apllications and it does cure several serious woes, but not all .
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    Well I can see all of his piccys, so nerh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ozwinner
    Well I can see all of his piccys, so nerh.


    Al
    Wadda ya expect?? someone from Victoria..... figures :eek:
    Cheers

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    Links don't work in Opera, but do in IE.... I guess Safari is the safe as Opera

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    I can't see them. And I'm using IE and I'm in VIC :confused:
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    Can you see 'em now?

    -ryan

    Testing:
    Last edited by ryanarcher; 15th March 2005 at 02:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanarcher
    Can you see 'em now?

    -ryan

    Testing:
    Ryan,

    I can see the above image. You? Your son?

    I assume the issue was that I use firefox on a Linux box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burn
    Ryan,

    I can see the above image. You? Your son?

    I assume the issue was that I use firefox on a Linux box.

    Burn

    My awesome son. Firefox on a linux box? It's all greek to me. when it didn't work for everyone I just decided to read the directions.

    Burn, can you see the pics from the review now?

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    I can't see the pics either.

    I think the problem is the security on the ophoto website which restricts you from embedding images in another webpage. Is it possible that the people who can see your pictures also have an account with ophoto?

    The only way around it is to insert hyperlinks to your pcitures rather than embedding them in the post - or don't use ophoto as your photo store.

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    Ryan, I'm using IE but can only get the pick of the spiral cutter to come up. The rest wont load.

    Cheers
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    Ryan,

    In the review, I can see the picture of the cutter head (under the text "and out of the planer:") but now I can't see the 'http:..." link messages at all.

    I also did all the geeky things to make sure my web browser wasn't saving old information.

    In addition, I've just looked at the review from IE on my laptop and it also doesn't see the link messages - just a little red 'x' in a box. If I ask IE to display the picture it does nothing.

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    Ryan

    Why not just post them as thumbnails in the post and refer to them as 1, 2, 3, etc. and then everyone should be able to see them.

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