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19th August 2012, 07:05 PM #1
Cedar, Cypress or what?
Ok, here's one for the tree experts. I have been casting pens with the seed pods from this tree. I've been calling them cedar seed pods, as the was a sign in the park saying it had 2 types of cedars, so assumed this was one of them. Anyway, I got someone to photograph both the tree and the sign today. Unfortunately the sign in the park talks about 2 cedars, the Bhutan (there are 2 species, Cupressus torulosa and Cupressus duclouxiana that I am aware of) and the Funeral (Cupressus funebris), but the seeds of all 3 cedars aren't right.
I also thought it may be a Cypress, but again, the seed pods aren't right.
Anyone know what it is?
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19th August 2012, 07:22 PM #2
Looks like one of the Sheoak (Casuarina) family.
Those were the droids I was looking for.
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19th August 2012, 08:16 PM #3
or allocasuarina too
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19th August 2012, 08:17 PM #4
Could well be, another 20-30 species t look at
Neil____________________________________________Every day presents an opportunity to learn something new
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19th August 2012, 11:30 PM #5
Looked at most of the Casuarinas/sheoaks/allocasuarinas etc I am aware of, but no luck. I did find a photo that matches the seed pod here eucalyptus: casually 4... Typical "... Casuarina species I know not"
The tree is in a park that was originally a private botanical garden, so could have come from any where, not just Melbourne where the tree is locatedNeil____________________________________________Every day presents an opportunity to learn something new
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20th August 2012, 02:26 AM #6
Me Too.
Hi Neil,
With Nuts & Foliage, my bet would be She Oak, but when you look at the Tree Photo, it is a different coloured Green.Regards,
issatree.
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20th August 2012, 09:41 AM #7
Neil, the casaurinas hybridise readily, so it may be hard to find an exact match for those fruits, but it's a she-oak. No possible, probable, shadow of doubt. The fruits & "leaves" you've shown are enough to identify it as such. As a clincher, does the wood have prominent medullary rays? All of the she-oaks I've seen, except Belah (C. cristata), have prominent medullary rays, which is where the "oak" in their common names comes from. No member of the softwood group (pines, cedars, firs, cypresses etc. etc.) have visible rays....
Cheers,IW
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20th August 2012, 09:49 AM #8
:what they said:
But those pods you have are interesting. All the compartments are lined up like a corn cob rather than alternating like the "usual" casurina seed pods.anne-maria.
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20th August 2012, 11:58 AM #9
I'm coming to the same conclusion ian. The trees are still standing and not coming down, so I will not know what the timber is like.
I have been in contact with the park's arboriculturist and sent him the photos. He assures me he will be able to identify it, just waiting for reply.Neil____________________________________________Every day presents an opportunity to learn something new
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20th August 2012, 01:54 PM #10
It is confirmed as Casuarina torulosa by the arboriculturist.
I thought I had already checked that species, but google'ing it again showed it up as a match Amazing, I know the species as a Rose Sheoak, one of my favourite timbers and I actually had one in my yeard. It was dead and full of white ants, so never saw the seed pods.
No matter, thanks to all that respondedNeil____________________________________________Every day presents an opportunity to learn something new
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