Thread: Density of Australian Timbers

Originally Posted by Runge

Thanks!

Is there a reasonably reliable way to tell if the wood that you are looking at is A. crombiei or A. peuce besides the density? I have a piece of A. peuce that has an air-dry density of 1,240kg/m^3 with a bit of sapwood. It was probably a branch or it was part of the trunk and there was mostly sapwood (much like the L. carronii pictures on your website). That density is pretty low for A peuce.

So, do you like A. xiphophylla as much as A. rhodoxylon? Ever heard of Acacia enervia or Acacia masliniana?

The samples of a.peuce (Waddy wood) and a.crombiei (Purple Gidgee) that I have are very similar in colour/sapwood etc but the a.peuce is visibly closer grained ie: denser. At a pinch, I would say the a.peuce is a darker purple but that might be just my sample
The others are all WA species which I haven't seen. BobL might be able to help you out there. I'd like to get my hands on a piece of the a.xiphophylla (Snake-wood) myself but it's a long way to drag the chainsaw

Never had anything to do with Black Oak, So hence the ignorance, for which I apologise,

I knew of the reputation of Belah for firewood but was shown a sample that was obviously not Belah.

Wonderful stuphph. I have some pieces that I am loathe to put to use as they loose colour on exposure to light.

How doe Mulga fare on the density scale? It is Bloody tough to cut wit a saw when seasoned, Can present problems when turning but finishes like glass.

Hi Atrme,

Acacia aneura looks like it ranges from 1157-1213kg/m^3 when it is dry.

How's your search for Brazilian wood going? What cities are you going to visit?

G'day Runge,

We are ;living in a beachside town called Atafona, at the mouth of the Praiba River. e nearest city is my Wifes home city of Campos, about 45min Away. It has a population of over 600,000.

Tomorrow we go to Rio to pick up our son and his girlfriend, who will be with us for 3 weeks. After that we go to Sao Palo and Sao Jose dos Campos.

We may be going to the Pantanal next year but that depends on the alignment of the stars etc.

Might get to see some dealers in Sao Palo but we have a fair deal of paperwork and documentation to deal with so the schedule is tight.

Originally Posted by artme

Great stuphph Runge!!

Are you a member of the International Wood Collectors Society?

I ask because this sort of info. is right up their ally.

All Casuarinas are at least "pretty" in my opinion. Some are prettier than others.


This is not the case with the female population of Estonia. All the Females there are gorgeous, except the ugly ones who are only pretty.

I think it is time you made your way back to Australia Arthur.
.... at least we have some ugly ones back here.

Allan

Well, I just stumbled on some information that is an update of this document

Libraries Australia Search | Goldfields timber research report : report by the Research Project Steering Committee / G.R. Siemon and I.G. Kealley.

Consequently, I will combine this with the earlier post. Here it is:

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Originally Posted by Runge

Hi Folks,

For anyone who is interested, here are great documents to tell you how dense is your favorite Australian wood.

http://whitepaper.climatechange.gov..../tr18final.pdf
http://whitepaper.climatechange.gov....tr18errata.pdf

Enjoy!

Here's a working link:

Woody Density Phase 1 - State of Knowledge - NCAS Technical Report No. 18