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Thread: Felling help
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9th October 2009, 01:27 AM #16New Member
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A large tractor is needed to bust the bottom limbs off by chain or wire rope.
regards inter/QUOTE]
Inter would you by the same method remove the branch that is caught behind the other tree first or wait and see if it sorts itself out when the tree falls?
I am not just concerned with the fallen tree. I don't want to bring down one of the others with it.
The council cut down a number of pine trees along the main road which look to be a similar size so it could well be that they are all due to fall over. These are not on council land so the council is not likely to offer to cut them down.
I've dreamt many different versions of what could happen. What if all three trees fell?
Assuming that the chain on the tractor is longer than the trees are tall, the worst thing that could happen is that they fall over in the opposite direction and hit the pub on the other side of the road.
There's no guarrantee that they won't anyway especially if we have one of those stormy east winds, but in that event I would want to out of town that day!!!
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9th October 2009, 01:59 AM #17New Member
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Do you think it is worth a months work with a handsaw rather than 2 hours of someone elses time for a rather crappy pine log?[/QUOTE]
Not at all Glenn I'm very agreeable to receive helpers, I just haven't found them yet.
When I do find them I'll be passing on the best advice offered here whether they ask for it or not.
I'm sure there's still a senario or two that I haven't imagined yet. I can wait.
Maybe the tree will be dead before it gets dropped. It will still be good for charcoal if nothing else.
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9th October 2009, 08:48 AM #18SENIOR MEMBER
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Just think of the worst out come possible with what ever you do and try and reduce the risk of it happening.
Tree rolling on you-leave supporting branches-reduce weight being supported
Saw jamming-remove parts of branch not suporting weight so it is simpler to work out what forces are involved- work out how far things can move before you cut-cut so tension opens cut.etc etc
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9th October 2009, 09:43 AM #19
Without being there to see it, so i am working from the photos, i would using a chainsaw
1st - Cut any branches off from the main trunk (that are not touching the ground) that i can get without chance of me being hit or the tree moving my way.
2nd - cut the branch off that is stuck behind the tree to allow the main trunk to roll onto the ground. - cut down from the top and over to the back, and finish the cut up from the bottom so as not to jam the bar. Clean this out of the way to allow an "escape" path if needed for next cut.
3rd - cut the main trunk reasonably close to the stump (because of size) probably cut the side away from the previous branch removed first (right through to the ground) and then cut the side where the last branch was removed (this gives that tree still standing as protection from the log rolling onto you. - cutting this side the top down then finish from the bottom up so as not to jam the bar.
Hopefully now the main trunk has rolled over or if not there is more chance of pulling it over as it is not attached anywhere.
Then clean up all the branches and finally the main trunk.
Hope that helps - as you can see i dont beleive these cuts can be made with the saws you have pictured.
Once again being there and looking at the tree may change my mind about how to go about it.
Hope that helps
Cheersregards
David
"Tell him he's dreamin.""How's the serenity" (from "The Castle")
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9th October 2009, 09:34 PM #20SENIOR MEMBER
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Yes tear that branch off first, if its not windy the chances of the other trees falling is not very likely but you never know though, to be on the safe side use a long steel wire rope to do the pulling out of harms way from the other trees. To cut any of those limbs off in the position its in now is too dangerous as you would be under it or having to cut limbs off above shoulder height or stand on the trunk which is not firmly on the ground (bounce). There are probably heaps of people that would attack it with no hesitation, but I'm not one of them, as they are still making trees & not making anymore of me.
Regards inter
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10th October 2009, 12:50 AM #21SENIOR MEMBER
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Tricky one
Going off the photos, this needs to be done with a c/saw with some grunt. Look at the tree and see which way you can get it to roll over when you cut the limbs its leaning on. It has to go on the ground before you cut it off the stump or shes gunna kick at you, pine always does.
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