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22nd April 2006, 06:41 PM #1
Milling & Seasoning Aussie Hardwood
G'day all,
Hmmmmmm ........... I've been looking throught the site and doing some searches and i can't decide what to do !!!! :confused:
See ...... I've got these trees to mill and season ......... for whatever use I desire ...........
I wanna make nice furniture and build a pergola
They are Yellowbox (on the ground 25yrs), Red Stringybark (down 6months) and bluegum (2b down soon)
I've got a local portable miller coming who has already inspected the timber and GUESSES maybe 5m3 :eek:
"What size timber you want ??" he says "I dunno" I says
"Are you gunna seal it ?? he says:confused: "Nah, I own it !!" I says
"How you gunna stack em ???" he says :mad: "I wanna use them NOW !!" I says "Before the cattle knock more over !!!" :eek:
helpDavid
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22nd April 2006, 09:22 PM #2
Start thinking quickly....
Pergolas need posts & beams & bearers.
Look them up in a google search.
You have about 10 minutes after you cut it to use the bluey before it is harder than hell, it makes good 4"x4" posts for pergolas.
PS. Picture 4 is a cow, don't.... that is DO NOT cut her down.Cliff.
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22nd April 2006, 11:07 PM #3
Cliff, I've got a few ideas
I'll have them slabbed to 100mm, paint the ends, and stack for a year while I practice on my recycled workbenchDavid
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22nd April 2006, 11:30 PM #4Novice
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Cliff if you want to make furniture from these timbers the best size is 30 to 35mm this is very heavy timber it will need to be stick out at 250mm centers under cover for 1 year min then put in kiln to dry I have been making furniture from these types of timbers for 20 yaers and milling and kiln drying for same good luck lets know how it goes
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23rd April 2006, 12:35 AM #5Originally Posted by dhurrang
Mmmm, nice bar dhurrang, what is your real name 'cos poor old bovalino1 thinks it is Cliff.
PS. I wish I had a 250mm centre to stick out.Cliff.
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23rd April 2006, 08:57 AM #6
Some more thoughts
The Blue Gum will be used for the pergola (tuff stuff) and cut 4x4 (25%) and 4x2 (75%)
The Yellow Box , I'm told by the miller, can be used straight away. I'd like to use it for hmmmmmm... bookcases and a desk. So I'm thinking 19x600mm in whatever lengths I can get.
The Red Stringybark is the trick I guess. I want to get all the milling done in one go (save money etc) so I'm thinking of having it slabbed as well .. but ... I've read that I should cut to size and dry (properly).
Ok ... but can't I resaw the slabs, once dry, and size at my liesure without further twisting :confused:
Cliff ... I've fixed my signature ... thaks for pointing that out
DavidDavid
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28th April 2006, 09:57 PM #7
and a few decisions
Some chioces have been made now!
With the felling of the blue gum (see below) I'm going to stack and stick out (for air flow) all the timber milled (except for a small amount of play wood). I'll seal all end grains with a 50/50 mix pvc and water (to slow drying and hopefully prevent too much cupping/splittiing) until I'm ready to use it.
Bovalino, I will store it for some time but most of the timber has been dead for years. And .... I don't have a kiln I know timber will hold moisture for decades. One of the logs we cut (yellowbox dead & down 20yrs) still showed moisture in radial cracks.
Nothings perfect
Milling happens early next week and I'll post a few pics afterDavid
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29th April 2006, 01:58 PM #8
Hey Dave!!! You should be standing the other side of that saw cut 'cos the piece you are standing on is going to fall down when you get through it.
Cliff.
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29th April 2006, 06:55 PM #9
thanks for the "heads up" Cliff
The trick is to get down BEFORE the stick does
I'm still researching the drying process and have discovered that woodturners have some novel ideas. I love the soap (detergent) idea but haven't figured out how I'll submerge 5m3 of hardwood :eek:
I need a bigger damDavid
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29th April 2006, 11:29 PM #10SENIOR MEMBER
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Originally Posted by dhurrang
What's the soap (detergent) idea?
would ya care to eeelucidate for them uz don't know. . ?
Thankee
Jedo
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29th April 2006, 11:46 PM #11
Need to submerge large amounts of timber in detergent?
I supose youv'e been putting off cleaning out the the stock dip for some time now you have a reason.
Clean out the dip, fill with detergent and dip your boards.
bonus the pesticide residues :eek: will probaly keep the the bugs out of your timber too
cheersAny thing with sharp teeth eats meat.
Most powertools have sharp teeth.
People are made of meat.
Abrasives can be just as dangerous as a blade.....and 10 times more painfull.
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29th April 2006, 11:52 PM #12
The soap idea is mostly for turning blanks. along with boiling the wood, soaking it in PEG or alcohol (what a waste) etc.
For normal timber, coat the ends with some sort of wax or paint (to cut down the end checking) and stack it up on stickers (or fillets) with some weight on top of the stack to help control cupping and bowing etc.
I've sawn and dried some bluegum here in NZ, the wood is neat, but it sure wanted to twist up as it dried. Hold the stuff down and let it dry slowly
Cheers
Ian
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30th April 2006, 10:11 AM #13
Soundman ... we haven't had sheep for nearly 20yrs (yeah) and the sheep dip is now a garden (see below). Can't dig that up says the Minister for war&finance
Ianab ... I've read that some turners have painted/brushed the soap solution on. I thought I might spray on using a 5ltr garden sprayer. I'll also seal the ends with a 50/50 pvc/water mix. The bluegum was killed by mitletoe 10 years ago and the yellowbox ringbarked (bloody horses) 15yrs back.
The yellowbox will be milled 100x100 and 100x50 for exposed beams n supports in my cubbyhouse and used straight away. So if it moves, so will everything else. :eek:
The rest will be stackedDavid
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30th April 2006, 11:02 AM #14
If it's been standing dead for that long then it's probably pretty dry already. It would still be nice to know what the moisture content actually is before you build with it. I'm guessing you will be OK, the wood should be dry enough now to use for construction stuff, and shouldn't warp or split like at can drying from green.
Cheers
Ian
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1st May 2006, 06:52 PM #15
It'satart
Well ... as promised a pic of the milling.
The stack on the right is red stringybark cut 100x40
On the left Bluegum (pretty ) cut 200x40. Other sizes cut 100x50 and 50x50.
We've just started on the yellowbox and are cutting 200&100x50.
All have also had a slab (55mm) cut as well.
4 more sicks to mill tomorrow
than it's playtimeDavid
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