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    This could become an excellent daily quiz, it would be very educational, especially for those of us starved of variety. (I.E. here in Sth. Oz.)
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    well to put you all out of your curiosity, I'll have to take it to the wood show and see if I can get a firm answer.


    TRend timbers is just a bit to far to go.

    One last point the splinters are REALLY sharp and stick in your thumb very easily but are hard to get out.

    Does that help on the species??

    JR
    We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names, and all are different colours....
    but they all exist very nicely in the same box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackruss
    One last point the splinters are REALLY sharp and stick in your thumb very easily but are hard to get out.
    It may be that you have a stick of ozwinner there. That has very similar properties.
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    I figure this is a good time and place to ask you aussie wood workers if there are and good books showing Australian woods? Are there any companies that sell small sample block of your woods for identification. We have samples from all over the world here but you can not get any from Aussie land. You have beautiful woods and I would like to import some of your fine woods. If any of you could show me a good web site or give any other info I would be much greatful. If any of you want small pieces of our woods I would be glad to bring some with me when I come. They would be good for inlay or glue up for turning. I travel light and have 250 pound in shipping weight to use up. You would need to meet me at the SYD air port at Mascot to get the wood. Free of charge. We get there every August and September to visit family. Richard

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    If you REALLY want it identified send it to this guy. There is nobody else in australia (or most of the world actually) who could give a better more conclusive answer.

    http://www.csiro.au/index.asp?type=m...t=mediaRelease

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    Jack Russ,


    If you know the dry density, grain texture, colour and hardness then you can narrow it down to a few possibilities.

    Try following links for timber properties:

    1) Auswood Australian timber species: www.auswood.com.au/Australian_Timber_Species.htm

    2) QLD DPI timber species & description: www.dpi.qld.gov.au/hardwoodsqld/7680.html

    Based on the information available, you can make some reasonable guesses.

    The WWW Sydney show is this weekend so take a sample there and check your guesses.

    Regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailingamerican
    I figure this is a good time and place to ask you aussie wood workers if there are and good books showing Australian woods? Are there any companies that sell small sample block of your woods for identification. We have samples from all over the world here but you can not get any from Aussie land. You have beautiful woods and I would like to import some of your fine woods. If any of you could show me a good web site or give any other info I would be much greatful. If any of you want small pieces of our woods I would be glad to bring some with me when I come. They would be good for inlay or glue up for turning. I travel light and have 250 pound in shipping weight to use up. You would need to meet me at the SYD air port at Mascot to get the wood. Free of charge. We get there every August and September to visit family. Richard
    Try this publication:

    http://www.skillspublish.com.au/Timbooktbg.htm

    For samples, try this site:

    http://www.trendtimbers.com.au/

    HTH
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    Ok,

    I will take a punt at 3 to 1 odds that it is Spotted Gum.

    Regards,

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    Theva,
    you owe me three of whatever you were betting . Definitely not spotted gum, it's much darker and finer grained. It also has a fairly distinctive and slightly unpleasant smell.

    Mick
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    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

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    I can't beleive I'm so excited about a piece of wood.


    Only two sleeps to I get to the WW show and find someone who can touch, and feel my piece of wood. ( Can I say that ;-))

    I already have about 150 l/m of this stuff, so I hope it worth while. When I get my new bandsaw, keep a look out for my first project a set of book shelves,

    or if I stuff it, a nice tool rack!

    JR
    We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names, and all are different colours....
    but they all exist very nicely in the same box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackruss
    or if I stuff it, a nice tool rack!
    Way to go JR, nothing like having a back up plan.
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    OK Mick,

    Now I know why I do not gamble.

    More on 1950s structural timber used in Sydney.

    Most of these houses were built for / by solders returned from WW II according to the old timer who lives across the road (83 years, I do know my neighbours). There was a massive construction boom and shortage of building materials throughout the land of OZ. They used whatever timber available locally at that time.

    This possibly rule out any species from southern areas.

    My best guess so far is blackbutt, brushbox, spotted gum or even messmate. If the density and splinter burn results are known then we can bake a more educated guess.

    All the old timber form my house had a musty smell, more to do with horse hair & plaster walls & ceilings I guess. It stop stinking only after getting rid of all the old plaster and many cleaning operations; It covered up all the other odours.

    Now I am fully hooked, can’t wait till jackruss put us out of our misery.

    Regards,

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    My bet is brush box - I had a kitchen and polished floors made from it, recycled from the Darling Harbour project wharves. A beautful timber varying from caramel through to almost red gum type hues - hard as the hobs of hell - an absolute delight to live with. I've got about a 1/4 m of stock to work with - tough on the tools but well worth the effort - next project a hall table.

    My 2d worth.

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    I will back Brushbox too. (It is that or spotty )

    Regards,

    Theva

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    Default the winner is ...

    OK after visiting 4 timber places at the ww show, I found the following

    1. If you are not buying timber they really aren't interested. ( not that I blame them)

    2. Every person has a different opinion so choose which one you like. No Brushbox though

    3. The timber could be Spotted gum ( thanks Theva ), Woolly Butt ( my fave just 'cos I like the thought of having a woolly butt ), Tas Oak ( 'cos it could be anything then) and finally Blackbutt which I think is the winner because it's the only one I could put my sample next to and compare with mine, See pic below.
    We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names, and all are different colours....
    but they all exist very nicely in the same box.

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