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    I now have my RSDE2 Dust Extractor. Fitted it to the Triton Saw guard yesterday. After cutting up MDF for an hour their was still a great deal of dust on the floor. Much more than was in the dust extractor.

    How effective should this be? I didnt expect it to be perfect, but it seems that it's barely sucking anything up. Also, the attatchment to the saw gaurd seems to be a little loose and can easily be knocked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiZeR
    I now have my RSDE2 Dust Extractor. .
    What is the RSDE2??

    Al :confused:

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    Do you have a dust bag ? Most of it goes in there. The very fine dust is what the Vacuum attached to the overhead guard should catch.

    Quote Originally Posted by ozwinner
    What is the RSDE2??

    Al :confused:
    Al, it's the model after the RSDE1, obviously
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    How Much Suck?
    About as much suck as the Collingwood football team has.


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    Sounds like your Dust Collection SUCKS BIG TIME

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiZeR
    I now have my RSDE2 Dust Extractor. Fitted it to the Triton Saw guard yesterday. After cutting up MDF for an hour their was still a great deal of dust on the floor.
    RSDE2 - is that Real Sucking Dust Extractor mk2? never heard of it either.

    do you have a dust collection bag under the saw? thats where most of my mdf dust goes when i use the saw, not on the floor. the overhead guard generally collects the fine dust above the table that would otherwise finish up in your lungs. I will not even consider cutting mdf without the dustbag and the overhead dust extraction in place and i ALWAYS wear a dust mask. mdf i sprobably one of the most dangerous things to work if you dont take full safety precautions on dust control

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    If it looks like this then I think I know what your problem is
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    Quote Originally Posted by corbs
    If it looks like this then I think I know what your problem is
    Corbs thats the well known and popular R2D2 dust extractor, not to be confused with the relatively unknown rsde2

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    1) MDF generates lots of small particles - your lungs will love it.
    2) bags clog up, reducing air intake
    3) gravity works the same for small partciles as it does for big ones
    4) velocity of dust particles remains constant wrt the first cut to the last cut but increases in proportion as the bag becomes more ineffective due to clogging , thus the velocity becomes more effective and it the ejectamenta settles on the floor. (you with me ? )

    replace/clean your bags more often, use a 2 stage dusty or do the sturdee dust bucket mod - this should fix you up, if not at the very least get a dust mask for your face.
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    Yes it looks very much like R2D2:

    http://www.recordpower.co.uk/index.pl?p=RSDE2&a=i



    Thanks for your comments. I do not have the dustbag but realise now that I obviously need it.

    Whats a 2 stage dusty?

    The mask goes without saying, For some reason I thought the vacuum would hoover up at least 70% of the dust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiZeR
    ......... I thought the vacuum would hoover up at least 70% of the dust.
    the sawblade cuts on the downward side of the rotation,so guess where 90% or more of the dust goes???

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiZeR
    Yes it looks very much like R2D2:

    http://www.recordpower.co.uk/index.pl?p=RSDE2&a=i



    Thanks for your comments. I do not have the dustbag but realise now that I obviously need it.

    Whats a 2 stage dusty?

    The mask goes without saying, For some reason I thought the vacuum would hoover up at least 70% of the dust.
    A 2 stage is where you have something like a Triton Dust bucket between the Saw and the Vacuum. Like the modified version shown in a recent newsletter (August i think) on www.tritonwoodworkers.org.au
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    does the triton dust bucket offer anything else other than increased capacity? My 'R2D2' has 50l

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    Wizer, ive just noticed that you are in the UK, now i see what the problem is. obviously because the triton is an aussie product, you thought the dust would fall upwards on the other side of the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiZeR
    does the triton dust bucket offer anything else other than increased capacity? My 'R2D2' has 50l

    ooops, stuffed up the link again. I'll fix that.

    The Triton bucket does offer a bit extra if you attach it to a paint tin (say 20L) as in the mod on that site. It's really all about keeping as much dust out of the DC as possible by having another collector (cyclone type) in between. I just use a normal house vacuum and checked it today after about 3 weeks of sucking dust. Hardly any in the Vac, it's all in the modified Dust bucket.

    That is different to a 2 HP DC i have for the bigger machines though, like the TS and jointer. Even then i have a rubbish bin in between like this :

    http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ght=stage+dust
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