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16th May 2010, 09:54 AM #1New Member
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Identify old hand saw
First post, so be gentle......
I have several of my fathers and grandfather's old tools and gradually working through them to clean them up for display. One is an old handsaw of my grandfather's. He was a carpenter by trade so this is a working (and well worn saw). The blade is 22 inches long at 9tpi. 4 bolts in the handle and no medallion or any other marking on the handle. The blade is stamped but very faded to the point of being unreadable. There are three lines of text that I can see. The best guess of what is there is
Line1: starts with MEL ends with EMPER
Line2: ends with BATION (maybe)
Line3: ends with FROM, smaller test size
My grathfather lived in Adelaide most of his life so the saw was probably bought there. I'm guessing it is not older than the 1930's
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks in Advance
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16th May 2010, 01:26 PM #2
Hi Steve and welcome to the site,
I have been getting into old saws only this last couple of years so I am not yet an expert.
As near as I can get is it is a utility saw from about the WW2 time and a number of years after. The blade is just as good as the better saws but materials and labor were short so they made them a bit more cost effective. As to brand I can not say but perhaps Diston or Spear and Jackson. It's been neglected a bit but set and sharpened will cut just fine.
Regards
John
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16th May 2010, 02:50 PM #3Jim
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I'm pretty sure from the lettering that it's a Spear and Jackson probably an 88.
the BATION is probably specifiCATION.
I'm cleaning one at the moment and will take down all the lettering for you later.
Cheers,
Jim
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16th May 2010, 02:52 PM #4Jim
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ps It has probably had replacement rivets. Does it look as if there has been a medallion where the second from the top is?
Cheers,
Jim
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16th May 2010, 03:02 PM #5Jim
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here's the relevant wording:
THE BALANCE GRIP AND TEMPER
OF THIS SAW
CONFORM EXACTLY TO SPECIFICATIONS
BASED ON SPECIAL TEST REPORTS FROM
OVER 100 SKILLED (CARPENTERS I think)
Seems to fit your lettering.
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16th May 2010, 08:31 PM #6Senior Member
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Yes, I'd concur on the S&J theory. I've got a few hanging on the wall and the handle looks very familiar.
Whilst on saws I went to a TTTG saw Sharpening Workshop today. As usual it was grand fun. Lots and lots of filing, huffing and puffing, some frustrated grunting and then big smiles as the sawdust started hitting the floor. John and Bob were in their usual form with Clynt offering extra tidbits from the corner. It was a big day with what seemed to be the best attended workshop I've been to so far, and lots of unfamiliar faces too. I sharpened four saws today and strolled away with an arm full of old saws and files to play with at home. I definitely got my money's worth.
Cheerio,
Virg.
PS there were biscuits and cakes too!
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16th May 2010, 09:10 PM #7Jim
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What also fits is that there seems to be an ellipse on the blade with its long axis horizontal - this would also be the same as the SJ I have.
Cheers,
Jim
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16th May 2010, 09:34 PM #8Jim
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17th May 2010, 08:28 AM #9Senior Member
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Sharp ones! (I was going to say crumby ones but that would've been far too crap a joke.)
Cheerio,
Virg.
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17th May 2010, 09:13 AM #10.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
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17th May 2010, 10:59 AM #11Jim
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17th May 2010, 04:01 PM #12Senior Member
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Groan. Now that was crumby.
Cheerio,
Virg.
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18th May 2010, 09:46 PM #13New Member
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18th May 2010, 09:52 PM #14Jim
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Perhaps I'm seeing too much but if you look at the photo you put up there is quite a smooth patch in the middle of the blade. To the left of this is a far more pitted area. I seemed to see a curve which could be the upper part of an ellipse between these two areas.
I've finished cleaning mine and it didn't even need sharpening.
Cheers,
Jim
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19th May 2010, 12:25 AM #15
Looks like I'm late to the party on this one, missed out on the cake it seems ,
I agree it's a "Spearior 88" for a better view of the etch, have a look at...
Musings from the Workbench: September 2007
I'm a bit perplexed by the lack of a medallion, every Spear&Jackson I have has a medallion...?
The screws look to have been replaced, that might be a clue.
Regards
Ray
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