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Thread: Inshave.
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30th September 2010, 06:51 PM #1
Inshave.
If a chap, resident in the Antipodes, was thinking of purchasing an inshave, where would be the best place to buy one?
I have small dreams of chair-making and I believe the inshave is a crucial piece of equipment.We don't know how lucky we are......
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30th September 2010, 10:53 PM #2
Here's one of ten available:
Ray Iles scorp / coopers inshave - chair making tool. - eBay (item 180437752828 end time Oct-22-10 07:01:55 PDT)
Not sure if it is what you are after
Cheers
SG.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
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1st October 2010, 08:04 AM #3
That is exactly what I'm looking for.
Have you dealt with the seller before?
Ray Iles has a good reputation, has anybody here used one of his inshaves?
Is there a supplier closer to home for us Southern Hemispherian types?We don't know how lucky we are......
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1st October 2010, 08:22 AM #4
Last time I looked, no.
Then again if you buy from the UK the postage is nowhere as bad as from the US and it seems to get to the Western Island pretty quickly (I never pay for expedited postage from the UK, it is rarely faster than 'surface' and not because expedited is slow)
BTW I wouldn't buy from the eBay seller - no experience with him, but his price is higher than retailCheers
Jeremy
If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done quickly
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1st October 2010, 06:19 PM #5
seanz
You can also get an inshave from Lee valley or their pullshave which is a more versatile tool as you can adjust for fine or coarse shavings Veritas® Pullshave - Lee Valley Tools this is a great tool.
Pfeil also make what they call a scorp in two handed and single handed version which you can get from Carbatec or Classic hand tools in the UK.
Regards
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1st October 2010, 06:56 PM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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Seanz, Just buy the one on ebay. if you re not registered for paypal its not difficult to join. I had a similar reluctance to buy from overseas for years dont know why - really its quite simple. Lee valley stuff is also good and have great customer service
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1st October 2010, 07:05 PM #7
The two-handed version is what I'm after.....and I think Carbatec used to sell them. They still sell the one handed version. I think a call to Carbatec might be a good idea.
The Veritas is a very interesting looking tool, neat looking set-up with the handles etc. but it costs twice as much as any of the old-style inshaves.
Umm....maybe not.
We don't know how lucky we are......
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1st October 2010, 07:13 PM #8
I know why I'm reluctant (besides the Kiwi$), it's because self-imposed limits are good for my financial health.
This is inspirational......I might be able to get a bloke just up the road to make one.
We don't know how lucky we are......
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2nd October 2010, 05:07 PM #9
The Two Cherries brand is OK, I have one that looks like it came out of the same factory but has a different mark which I am trying to track down again ( !)
Get one with the thickest tangs for your price, some thinner ones flex. if you get one with a chisel edge be prepared to do a fair amount of work on it to get it usable. It's got to have an edge more like a one-sided knife edge.
Cheers
Michael
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2nd October 2010, 08:50 PM #10
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3rd October 2010, 09:10 PM #11Senior Member
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Hi Seanz, take a look at this post by chairmaker Peter Galbert which may help you decide what shape shave to look for.
http://chairnotes.blogspot.com/2007/05/inshaves.html
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3rd October 2010, 09:41 PM #12
Thanks.....very interesting.
Took a bit to find a good pic of the Kirschen inshave for comparison.
This catalogue pic makes it look similar to the Ox-head inshave but the Ox-head inshave in the catalogue is much flatter than the one in your link.
Of course different camera angles won't help a bit.........We don't know how lucky we are......
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3rd October 2010, 09:42 PM #13
The Kirschen is an Oxhead pattern.
Here's a photo of the chisel bevel that I was talking about before, it's no good. I'll go out and take a photo of my inshave edge in a mo'
Here 'tis. It had the same bevel as in the link above and required a fair amount metal removing with a belt sander to get that smooth transition. Inside has only a small knife edge bevel.
Cheers
Michael
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4th October 2010, 08:48 PM #14SENIOR MEMBER
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I have an old Ward inshave with a bevel like Mic-d has put on his. Aparently it was a traditional old school way to do it and it works fine but differently to those with a bevel.
I have used them with a more pronounced bevel also and they work fine too - and I may tend to prefer one with a bevel - but it must be at the correct angle - to steep a bevel and you will not be able to take a cut once you get into a bit of a hollow as the handle tips hit the wood. An observation I have made on the two cherries at woodshows and in use is that they had too steep a bevel and indeed needed regrinding before they would work ok.
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