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Thread: Lubing my tool.
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26th October 2009, 01:36 AM #1Banned
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Lubing my tool.
I HAND plane lots of hide glue joints in timber, as well as timber in general.
AND as you all know a wipe with some candle wax or a drop or two of oil along the sole makes for lithe and briskly cutting plane.
But I also notice that the hide glue tends to SMEAR by friction and heat along the soul of the plain.
That is sort of OK..... A wipe of wax and or a drop of motor oil across the tackyness we are back in business.
However - to get a bit pedantic and neurotic about it all, oil or wax on the sole of the plane doesn't really matter at all, in terms of contamination of the surface layer of timber especially when there is much wood to be removed.
OK the nit-picky bit, (being a bit of a tool if I do say so my self), when one only applies a faint smear of wax on the sole from time to time , that will lubricate the sole for a great deal of cutting...
So by the time it starts to stop lubricating, not very much wax at all has spread in an astronomically thin film along an awful lot of wood, which is constantly being removed after getting coated.
So basically - judiciously applied, there ought to be no discernable wax residue left on the wood - prior to painting with shellac etc. - that either would not be detectable - in proportion to the waxes and oils naturally occouring within the wood it's self;
And - what ever wax there may be wiped off the sole onto the timber, would be so easily removed merely by waving some sand paper over the timber it's self...
And shellac and oil paints etc., are loaded with waxes and oils in the first place.....
So this is not a stupid question; AND
This is not a pointless question;
But it is a question that could be considered as serving no particularly useful purpose;
Is there a way to lubricate the sole of the wood plane or to make it very slippery; that makes it slide as well as when it runs on a goodly smear of wax; but it leaves no residue on the timber?
Sure IF I was to take the plane body along to some "space technology" ceramic place, there may be a coating that could be applied.....
Is there a surface treatment that is "common" and leaves (almost no) residue on the timber (silicon in Mr Sheen?) that people like to use?
Armor All?
WD40?
Vaseline? (which I hear is very good on your tool)
Graphite?
I am curious, what do people like to lube their wood plane soles with - that leaves as next to nothing on the wood surface?
(well everything does - this is how planes wear out)
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26th October 2009, 07:43 AM #2Member
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What about Silverglide??
I found out about this stuff in a post here yesterday
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26th October 2009, 07:52 AM #3
If you're smearing animal glue along the bottom of your plane, you're planing a fair amount of glue (I've done it myself). I normally pop off large gobs of glue with an old chisel (actually a new cheap-and-nasty chisel) prior to planing.
I've always used a very wet 50/50 mixture of beeswax and parafin wax disolved in naptha (Shellite in Australia) to protect and lubricate my planes, chisels and saws etc. I keep a folded rag in the wax jar which I use to apply frequent, generous amounts. The naptha flashes off quickly leaving a thin, even coating of hard-ish wax which I buff when dry. I've never encountered any problems with wax residue when gluing or finishing..
I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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26th October 2009, 07:55 AM #4
I only ever use a dot of bees wax if anything, never use Mr sheen or silicon (even the slightest amout) as it will repell your finish and at best leave rings or dots in your finished surface.
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26th October 2009, 03:19 PM #5
Hope you do not mind me highlighting your comment, ClawHama, but that statement should be writ large. I have ruined several jobs with minute traces of silicon from my Triton, even from overspray from the roller door track.
Silicon is essentially refined sand, and sand belongs on beaches, not near the workshop!
Cheers
Graeme
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26th October 2009, 03:44 PM #6
Hi Graeme
It is I who should appologinse for not being more bold. Luckily I leart about Mr Sheen and silicon from others many years ago. Many car buffs made the mistake years ago of polishing their cars with it, oops, fine as long as you never want to repaint or touch up ever agian.
When I supply my furniture to clients I throw in a bottle of O'Cedar or similar and tell them never under any cercumstances to use Mr Sheen.
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26th October 2009, 05:44 PM #7Is there a way to lubricate the sole of the wood plane or to make it very slippery; that makes it slide as well as when it runs on a goodly smear of wax; but it leaves no residue on the timber?
You should not need to wax the soles of wooden planes. They burnish on the wood surfaces and then glide. On my metal plane I scribble a little candle wax. That's all that is needed.
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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27th October 2009, 01:14 AM #8
But
if the wax or oil used is compatible with the finish any amount transfered to the surface shouldn't matter.
I suspect, but it would take months of testing to confirm, that all oil and organic solvent based finishes are compatible with the oils and waxes typically used to lubricate metal planes.
But I think I'd steer clear of using synthetic engine or transmission oil on a planeregards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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27th October 2009, 05:38 AM #9
For wooden planes a wipe with a rag with linseed oil on it works well for me - in fact after a while the rag has enough oil in it that I don't need to use the bottle at all. Linseed doesn't interfere with finishes AFAIK
Cheers
Jeremy
If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done quickly
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27th October 2009, 08:51 AM #10Jim
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Same as Jeremy - that's what I was taught way, way back when most planes were wood and I was young. If you get hold of an old english plane thats seen the end of its days and cut into it, you find it still smells inside of linseed.
Cheers,
Jim
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27th October 2009, 01:45 PM #11"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so."
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