Thread: Monday night Show'n'Tell

Holy Toledos,
All that for $20 - very gloatworthy.
I was laid low with Manflu yesterday and seriously considered dialling 000. Bravely stuck it out between the chair in front of the fireplace and the bedroom, drinking my daughter's recipe for curing the flu - gallons of warm water. It really does get to taste vile.
But today I was up and around and I haven't crashed yet - will probably sleep like a log tonight though. Guess she knows a thing or two.
So I dragged my sorry carcass into town to help daughter number 2 move a lounge down six flights of stairs. Had to go past the markets so stopped to hobble around the stalls. Found a Bailey style number 5 sized jack made by Marples that should clean up OK, and this little number for $1 more.
I have never had a Pope number F4 plane before so this is a first for me.
Lots of grot but all the bits are there. The adjuster wheel is small - is this normal? This one is firmly jammed and the threaded rod screws out when it rotates - some work ahead there.
I was surprised to find that it has an alloy frog just like the Turners.
Is this common?
Second surprise, the blade is thicker than the Stanley equivalent.
I think I'll do this one up and see how it performs.
I don't have a rear handle, but I have two damaged ones down in the shed that might just make one complete handle between them.
What glue is best for rosewood?
Hmm, this could take a while.
Cheers from Tele Point
SG

Originally Posted by Scribbly Gum

laid low with Manflu yesterday and seriously considered dialling 000

Originally Posted by Scribbly Gum

move a lounge down six flights of stairs

Hi tom

I have a very similar plane here that is marked "POPE" in front of the knob and "No 4" behind the knob.. small adjustment wheel like yours and aluminium frog.
I have another in the shed with a pope lever cap like yours and the "Falcon F4 1/2" around the knob.. same featurs again. I guess it's a pointer to the planes being made around the time that they changed the name from Pope to Falcon... using up the old caps.
From what I have experienced the blades are good, thick and hard.



Gallons of warm water?... blurgh

Thanks Luban.
What is the best glue for rosewood?
On a more serious note............
For an in depth understanding of Manflu................
See here:

Coff coff
SG

love sundays too.............

someone lacquered these 4 for $15 and the lone woodcock? was $1.50

cheers
Michael

Originally Posted by Deesinister

Happy with these for $20
I love sunday.

Very well done! Have been looking at a couple of sets like that.

Can't complain about that lot with change from a $20 Michael

Originally Posted by Scribbly Gum

Thanks Luban.
What is the best glue for rosewood?
On a more serious note............
For an in depth understanding of Manflu................
See here:

Coff coff
SG

haha.. I like that actor. Funny scene.

I use Titebond for my tote repairs for no other reason than I have it handy. I always cut or plane back the broken part to flat smooth raw wood and then go from there unless I have broken the handle myself there's usually years of oil and junk in old cracks to mess with whatever glue you use, that's just me though, and on planes that are destined for a workbench.. I don't deal with many (yet) exxy collectors planes and when I do I dont repair anything.

Here's the sort of thing I do for my own planes. cut the broken surface clean and replace with new rosewood making no attempt to hide it.

Attachment 112532

btw.. did that 718 knob arrive? did it last more than five minutes? I'm a bit suss on how that rosewood will hold up, it has lasted fine for turning chisel handles and the odd Stanley knob but It felt a bit too light for the swiveling knob task. I'm still scratching my chin about a suitable timber that would suit those planes.

Originally Posted by Slow6

Can't complain about that lot with change from a $20 Michael




haha.. I like that actor. Funny scene.

I use Titebond for my tote repairs for no other reason than I have it handy. I always cut or plane back the broken part to flat smooth raw wood and then go from there unless I have broken the handle myself there's usually years of oil and junk in old cracks to mess with whatever glue you use, that's just me though, and on planes that are destined for a workbench.. I don't deal with many (yet) exxy collectors planes and when I do I dont repair anything.

Here's the sort of thing I do for my own planes. cut the broken surface clean and replace with new rosewood making no attempt to hide it.

Attachment 112532

btw.. did that 718 knob arrive? did it last more than five minutes? I'm a bit suss on how that rosewood will hold up, it has lasted fine for turning chisel handles and the odd Stanley knob but It felt a bit too light for the swiveling knob task. I'm still scratching my chin about a suitable timber that would suit those planes.

I must have forgotten my manners - sorry.
Yes the knob arrived - and so far so good - is going great.
Many thanks Luban.
Titebond eh....OK I'll do it!
I've got two rosewood handles - one without a top and the other broken half way in two places - so a clean cut and glue is the ticket I think.
Thanks again for your help Luban
Cheers
Tom

Forget the manners Tom.. no need

I'm more just eager to hear if it gives out on you.

fwiw when gluing up two halves of a tote I stick a pencil up the hole ond use lots of rubber bands to hold it all together.. I heavily wax the pencil so I can get it out again.

Just looking at yours Scrib, (nice score) is there a history of these planes. I bought a couple recently $10 (pic below) but cant figure out the timeline on these. Definitely collectibles for the future if you're into collecting. The meat on the blades is impressive.
Obviously a Pope product first. But when did they start, and who were Falcon. Were they making planes before. The font on the blade of the would suggest 40's/ 50's to me.
Mine are incomplete but I'm a patient bloke.
Dane, Im so envious of that No 4. Nice score.

there is some basic info here along with a nice overhead of the falcon and pope body castings side by side and a little lever cap line up.

Originally Posted by Slow6

there is some basic info here along with a nice overhead of the falcon and pope body castings side by side and a little lever cap line up.

Thanks for that Luban. I see the pope castings are heavier. Better ? Interesting area for collection I think.

An older aquaintance of mine had a nice collection of tools inherited from grandfather, father and his own use. The collection included a lovely set of Stanleys including a couple of rareish rebate planes. chisels etc.I photographed them for him recently with the intention of putting them on Hans Brunner's site.
Well ... last night a gentleman went to his place and offered him a handsome price for the whole lot.
If I gave the clue of "Caernarven" would that allow a fellow forumite to say it was them?
John is very happy with the deal. I had tried to keep his expectations low so he was happy with what I certainly regard as a fair price.
Fletty

evening all,
this is a sort of MNS&T piece except ive had it for about 6 months....ebay again.
The thing is, i was at a loose end yesterday what with the weather being a bit off so i decided on a in-shed job and strip the 4 'orrible coats of brown enamel paint from my vintage carpenter's toolbox. I think it turned out ok for about 6 hours work.
I cant get every sceric out of the grain but the residue adds a little...............
The other reason for my rant is to see if anyone can rummage their shed and help with some nice new proper unplated slotted steel woodscrews to refix the hinges & clasps. The originals are a bit sprained now.
The sizes are i think 5G x 3/4" 8G x 3/4" and 10Gx 7/8". I need about 6 of the 5G, 12 of 8G & 4 of the 10G ...................................or a good supplier if anyone knows.
cheers for any help
Michael.

got to the markets late on sunday and didn't expect to score a thing . got the sandvix saw for $2 the ward and the sorby for $4 each and the dowidat nippers $4.all up$14 not gloat cheap but ok .