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    Default Ancient 130Amp MMArc welder - Silovac brand

    I picked this welder up of the kerb- it was being thrown away. I have checked it over electrically (visual and with a meter) everything seems fine and internally its in remarkably good condition.

    I completed a few test welds it seems to do fine at high amperage. Leads are in surprisingly good nick for their age but the 240 volt cord probably should be replaced though it seems OK too.

    I have heard that better welders have more copper - man this has lots of copper - it weighs a ton!!

    I always wanted a welder but only for rare occaisonal household use. I had a fair bit of expereince welding in my 20s but have'nt touched it for 25 yrears or so.

    Is it worth tidying up this machine or would a Bunnings cheapie be easier to use (and obviously more portable)??

    By the way if anyone has one of these or knows anything about this old machine I would appreciate any info out of curiosity. Its brand is Silovac. I do kind of like restoring older gear - but only of it can function and be used.

    Thanks for the help

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    G day & Welcome to the mob

    Given that you are happy that it is electrically safe ,it should last you out, if you paint it it or not.

    Check the terminal tabs are not corroded or the wire in them not loose and its a goer.
    If the wire cable into the tabs is loose or corroded you can buy the tabs at a dedicated welders shop for very little out lay.

    May be just wire brush them on the outside and the connection lugs.

    I seen these types of machine go under in the floods and all they need is a hose out and dry . Try that with an inverter!
    It will be 50 times better than any stick welder you can get from Bummings.

    I did a quick google and found that Silovac made a wide range of electrical goods ,including floor polishers,vacuum cleaners, milkshake blenders and god knows what else, now including welders.If its copper its the good stuff.The possbile damage it could have suffered would be if it was dead shorted and the insulation has broken down between the transformer shims.It it is welding ok ,it seems unlikely.

    I would estimate in was made in the 60.s or 70,s
    Portability ? Well you know you first welding project,doncha.

    A frame with an long upright handle for leverage (which you can wind your leads around) and maybe a hook for helmet & gloves, a pocket for the electrodes and chipping hammer and brush and some wheels.Get steel cantered ones with a bearing.,The plastic crap ones won't last.

    Maybe, end us a piccy when you finish.It will make a change from all these other blokes restoring lathes

    Shout yourself an electronic helmet with the $ you saved.

    Cheers

    Grahame

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    They just don't make them like they used to

    Sand back the paint, slap a coat of kill rust on and clean up the leads and electrical contacts and you will have a arc welder that will work until you die. If you want pop off the cover and check out the insides, any burn marks or obvious heat damage and chances are your better off pulling the transformer apart for the copper. Its rare for big copper based welders to be damaged as by design they have high duty cycles.

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    Default Thank You

    Thanks gents for the rapid and definitive replies!!

    Im looking forward to tidying up the machine and I like Graeme's suggestion of adding wheels, handle to get it a bit more portable as a first project.

    Will post some photos as I tidy it up.

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    Seeing that one brought back memories.

    I had one of these up until 1999 and sold it in a garage auction, it weighed a ton to lift, but worked great. It had been my fathers beforehand, and i remember him getting it second hand about 30 odd years beforehand.
    I mounted mine on a two wheel trolley for mobility.

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    Default Silovac welder trolley and restoration 1

    Hi Grahame and all
    Have taken your advice and used this resurrected welder to build a trolley ( for my training) and make this lump a bit portable. Its been a great learning project and as its been 25 yrs since I welded (and then it was MIG) - it was a challenge. I have been gradually getting better thanks to "having a go" and this forum (Grahame's) hints which are really very good. Easy to lay a bead on a flat steel harder when you start to get into real joins & fillets & different thickness materials.

    The welder seems pretty unstoppable it just seems to quietly hum along no matter what you do. The earth clamp was atrocious so i replaced the entire lug and clamp. Im probably mad wasting time on such an old peice of machinery but it seems to work rather well

    My biggest problem is getting decent penetration but I am improving slowly. The shops must love us - buy lots of gear to put metal on, then lots of grinding wheels to get it off again!!

    Of course I could have bought a trolley at Bunnings but wheres the learning in that!! It looks like a bit of a dogs breakfast but I was determined to make it out of scrap -mainly old angle from a bed- had to buy the wheel and two rods. Paint is the biggest cost.

    I had hells own problems bending rod though - I cant seem to get it hot enough so resorted to welding a bead on it till it was red hot then bending it.

    Next step is to paint it all up and add a switch and new mains cord to the welder. Hopefully the next post will be a completed job!

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    Hi ,
    Great stuff.Thanks for the pics.

    Obviously now you are hooked, the next job is a welding bench.

    Cheers
    Grahame

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    Im probably mad wasting time on such an old peice of machinery
    Nah the old stuff is great, usually heavy as hell like yours, but try buying something new thats built that good these days.

    Good connections for the terminals, decent rod holder and earth clamp. Theres not much else to go wrong.
    www.lockwoodcanvas.com.au

    I will never be the person who has everything, not when someone keeps inventing so much cool new stuff to buy.

    From an early age my father taught me to wear welding gloves . "Its not to protect your hands son, its to put out the fire when u set yourself alight".

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